: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:16 pm  

How many more creative playmakers do we have in the first team?

: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:18 pm  

thudder wrote:

:CLAP: couldnt agree more although you will have your wotsits ripped off on here saying anything against the mighty watto!!! haha
Was at the reserve game tonight and 2 interseting things families of certain players telling me that it is intimidating for other playmakers in the team when playing alongside watto because they feel he has to call all the shots!!!
And it was very interesting to see a team without watto in trying moves and everyone calling the plays and shots instead of one man...we are very predictable and easy to defend against as qoute from a fax fan after 60 mins.."does everything after go thro your 7 it makes you easy to defend against" and he had only watched 60 mins of us all season????

Maybe everything has to go through Watto because the 'others' aren't good enough. They've all been tried but obviously aren't good enough. Yes, we should try to vary our play more as it is very predictable but what are you supposed to do? The club has tried to resolve the problem but as well all know it isn't going to plan.

: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:20 pm  

There are reasons for the team that we have at the present time and it's some of the clubs ( previous boards should be taken into account ) fault. Some of it is not. Some people on here know what goes on at the club, most dont. To come on here and blame AT, AR and PR is a bit mad. I have my reservations about PR's appointment and I think it is wrong. I also think that Watto is not as good as some people on here think but he walks out in a Leigh shirt and tries. If he is the best or the worst, he goes out and tries and when I go and sit in the middle of the west stand on a sunday thats what I want to see. A team of trier's. Untill we get a major sponsor ( sugar daddy) to fund us we are stuck with what we have. The public face of our club is one stumbling block that this board has not taken seriously and in todays media driven society we will be looked upon as second class untill someone (with a bit of knowledge and vision in the media) takes the reins. The common denominator ( if thats how it is spelled) for all our troubles is money not AT or AR.I'm sure if someone were to give them a load they would become heros again.

Re: laughable : Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:24 pm  

WYSIWYG wrote:

I look and read the post on here and I go to watch Leigh as I have for many years and these last few years (apart from LSV and all behind it who made it a reality) have been some of the worst in Leigh's history.

I read your posts and you seem to think that Watson is fantastic. He wouldn't have got into the reserves on most of the best Leigh players that we have had. This team is absolutely rubbish compared to what we have been used to watching over the years. Most of them are just reserve team quality. There really isn't a player on this team that I would want to keep.

Rowley as coach is just a laugh. We get a first class coach in Kelly. He must have been promised things. He isn't given the resources and then he is shoved upstairs to make way for "that's my boy". Rowley never got the respect of players in a team and was always causing problems so how on earth do you expect him to get the respect of players he is coaching.

We need a leader of the club with balls and vision to take this club forward over the next 2 years. AT and the Rowleys are not the men for this club. I just wish someone with cash and leadership was out there for this club to bring back the good times.
What you see is what you get. With this leadership I see a club lingering in the bottom of the Championship for the next 2 years or more. Sad times indeed.

Do you mean like Steve O Connor at Widnes ?

They brought in Paul Cullen [ an experienced SL coach ] and he has been a roaring success

We have what we have , we have what we can currently afford [ I hope ]

I dont think any non SL club in the heartlands will be attracting any billionaires for a while , so unless you want to mortgage your home and family we will probably be stuck with what we have for a considerable time

Am I happy with the way we are playing ? no

Would I like us to pick up one or two new [ better ] players than we currently have ? yes

Am I totally estatic with Paul as coach at the moment ? no

Should he be given longer [ next year ] to prove himself ? yes

Time will tell

: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:32 pm  

The Leyther wrote:

Maybe everything has to go through Watto because the 'others' aren't good enough. They've all been tried but obviously aren't good enough. Yes, we should try to vary our play more as it is very predictable but what are you supposed to do? The club has tried to resolve the problem but as well all know it isn't going to plan.

Or could it just maybe be possible in the mere slightest chance ....that he isnt good enough???
and they have all tried with him in the team???

Light blue touch paper and stand well back...............

: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:42 pm  

thudder wrote:

Or could it just maybe be possible in the mere slightest chance ....that he isnt good enough???
and they have all tried with him in the team???

Light blue touch paper and stand well back...............

So what do you suggest PR does? Drop our best performer from the past 2/3 weeks then our problems will resolved. Just say Watson didn't play, who would play there Durbin - he's been totally ineffective since he stopped running at defences.

: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:09 pm  

The Leyther wrote:

So what do you suggest PR does? Drop our best performer from the past 2/3 weeks then our problems will resolved. Just say Watson didn't play, who would play there Durbin - he's been totally ineffective since he stopped running at defences.

am just saying that some of this thread is correct he isnt all that ...in a garbage team he is but....
anyway like you said he hasnt got much competition so he doesnt have to be outstanding to look good....and like have said previous its not my problem to sort out ...over to you AT AR PR SK etc etc ......

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:21 am  

Isnt this the team that Neil Kelly put together? His biggest mistake was spending the majority of his budget on a winger/centre/fullback when it was obvious you were lacking in the main areas on the pitch.

As for Watto he was clearly your best player against us, and that unfortunatley speaks volumes for the quality of your team.

Have faith in Neil Kelly.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:35 am  

thudder wrote:

and like have said previous its not my problem to sort out ...over to you AT AR PR SK etc etc ......

So you're going to have a whinge, like we all can do - no offence intended, but do not have any answers to the problem or are willing to suggest any that does not involve bankrupting the club or finding a rich (and daft) benefactor.

It's not very constructive is it?

If even half the people in this town who pi55 and moan about the club committed to going for just one season, we'd be getting 5000 every week and be able afford the best team in the Championship by a country mile.

Thats where the biggest problem is.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:52 pm  

have had season tickets for the last 30 years even when i was living in germany in the forces ...so i think i have done my bit ...but thanks for the advice...
Have said again on here we are the one of the worst marketed and commercial run sides in rugby and have been for all my time watching..maybe spending money on that side first might pay dividends...i dont know...but what am saying is this is a forum just like man utd forums cricket forums its for the fans its used by the fan.....all of which wish they had the money to do something about it...but we havnt and all we have is passion sometimes misdirected but always because we hurt when our team is not what we expect....

so again we can have ideas but not the money to follow thro`

BUT without us passionate fans even if theres only 1000 the club needs us whinges and moans as well!!

so again over to the runners of the club...