: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:43 pm  

Leyther_Matt wrote:

Bar location, and that's debatable in itself, Barrow satisfy the sum total of bugger all of the criteria. No disrespect to them, but they're light years away from being a Super League club.

They're light years away from civilisation

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:20 pm  

Logend wrote:

They're light years away from civilisation

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:25 pm  

Leyther_Matt wrote:

Bar location, and that's debatable in itself, Barrow satisfy the sum total of bugger all of the criteria. No disrespect to them, but they're light years away from being a Super League club.

That did'nt seem to deter them when Celtic were let in though did it,how many over seas players have they got by the way?(Barrow)it just seems funny that they have recruited well and they are doing really well having just come up ,yet before the franchise teams that came up struggled.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:35 pm  

itsatry! wrote:

That did'nt seem to deter them when Celtic were let in though did it,how many over seas players have they got by the way?(Barrow)it just seems funny that they have recruited well and they are doing really well having just come up ,yet before the franchise teams that came up struggled.

But Celtic are based in another country; Barrow are an hour up the M6 and just as much a traditional club as ourselves, Widnes and the like so why on earth would they get the supporter of expansion, with whom I disagree, vote?

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:42 pm  

Leyther_Matt wrote:

But Celtic are based in another country; Barrow are an hour up the M6 and just as much a traditional club as ourselves, Widnes and the like so why on earth would they get the supporter of expansion, with whom I disagree, vote?

See i would'nt put anything pass them lot ,who knows what goes on in their little tiny minds in their little world , i cant see them putting a club in SL from Lancashire or Yorkshire i mean now why would they do that ,if not Barrow though i bet Toulous gets the nod.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:47 pm  

itsatry! wrote:

See i would'nt put anything pass them lot ,who knows what goes on in their little tiny minds in their little world , i cant see them putting a club in SL from Lancashire or Yorkshire i mean now why would they do that ,if not Barrow though i bet Toulous gets the nod.

Toulouse are a shoe-in, no doubt about that. Should they choose to go with two teams again (nothing to say that they will) then I think Barrow would be far from the front runners, unless they pull £xmillion worth of improvements to their ground between now and then. The lack of organisation when they played Wigan was frightening, I believe.

nrc : Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:47 pm  

My views on franchising are well known.

I think I am right in that it has had a detrimental effect on all Non Relegation clubs attendances for clubs based in England. It has also had a similar effect on Championship clubs too.

Should it continue unless a present member of Non Relegation league goes bust who seriously thinks any of Widnes, Fax, Barrow, Haven, or most definately not our club, would get a franchise ahead of Toulouse.

Apart from being opposed to it I think it will kill the professional game which regretably is falling farther behind kick and clap as time goes on. In this regard the RFL need to have a think about spreading TV revenues outside the Non Relegation clubs.

Re: nrc : Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:54 pm  

frankb wrote:

My views on franchising are well known.

I think I am right in that it has had a detrimental effect on all Non Relegation clubs attendances for clubs based in England. It has also had a similar effect on Championship clubs too.

Should it continue unless a present member of Non Relegation league goes bust who seriously thinks any of Widnes, Fax, Barrow, Haven, or most definately not our club, would get a franchise ahead of Toulouse.

Apart from being opposed to it I think it will kill the professional game which regretably is falling farther behind kick and clap as time goes on. In this regard the RFL need to have a think about spreading TV revenues outside the Non Relegation clubs.

Thats exactly why i think if 2 teams are accepted Barrow seems the only other choice or Gateshead may get the nod depending how well they do in the comp.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:27 pm  

Widnes and Toulose isn't it obvious?

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:24 am  

FredParky wrote:

Widnes and Toulose isn't it obvious?

Exactly what I was thinking, though a lot will depend on whether they want to expand SDL to 16 teams, as I don't fancy them kicking one team out, never mind two.