: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:26 pm  

Cocaine is recognised as a drug associated with club (dance scene) use and is in effect a drug that speeds up the metabolic rate therfore it can be described as a 'performanc enhancing' drug, whether that performance can be associated with rugby is another matter .
It has however always been on the banned substance list for Athletes (and RL players) It is classified as a Class A substance and to even have it in your system can be 'Possession' as per the Drugs Act therefore it is illegal and to have it in ones possession can be a maximum prison sentence of 7 years. Hardly a trivial drug one would say?

gareth hock : Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:28 pm  

How much does it cost ?
My view is if it doesn,t improve his performance on the Rugby field then it,s his business and not mine.

We don,t ban players from playing if say alcohol or nicotine was found in a blood or urine sample.

The idea that it has an impact on kids wanting to buy the drug for themselves is daft.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:30 pm  

Alcohol and nicotine are not illegal drugs Frank, Cocaine is.

Re: gareth hock : Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:50 pm  

frankb wrote:

How much does it cost ?
My view is if it doesn,t improve his performance on the Rugby field then it,s his business and not mine.

We don,t ban players from playing if say alcohol or nicotine was found in a blood or urine sample.

The idea that it has an impact on kids wanting to buy the drug for themselves is daft.

also - because if we did this, then we would have a list of banned substances due to their performance enhancing properties and another list of "illegal, but acceptable in rugby" drugs - which would make rugby a laughing stock.
then, there is the duty of care side of things whereby the RFL are held responsible for sanctioning illegal if a player dies from an overdose, for example.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:52 pm  

It now explains why he loses the plot halfway through a game...either its wearing off or kicking in...ah well,smack head gets found out shock

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:55 pm  

Well if his B sample is the same he "should" get the same treatment as Gareth Price & Ryan Hudson etc. End of the day it's a banned substance so he should get at least a two year ban.

Then again this is the RFL so he'll probably get a million pounds... nothing would surprise me.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:09 pm  

"awwwww listen mate young kids dont need influences of rugby players they get it off their own parents and freinds. Just a bit pathetic asking for a life ban its definatly cant be used as i performance enhancing things like T5S and efferdrine are"


Think you will find T5S are a mild form of cocaine.
Cocaine speeds your matabalism. So wheather or not he uses it for performance enhancing drug, its still a banned substance so should be punished.

Re: gareth hock : Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:13 pm  

frankb wrote:

The idea that it has an impact on kids wanting to buy the drug for themselves is daft.

kids who become young players who then thinks it's ok to dabble, can't believe folk are trying to defend drug takers...bizarre.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:16 pm  

polly_lythe wrote:

Think you will find T5S are a mild form of cocaine.
Cocaine speeds your matabalism. So wheather or not he uses it for performance enhancing drug, its still a banned substance so should be punished.

Relevant points that seem totally lost on some.

[mish]

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:36 pm  

Drugs - any drugs - have no place in any sport. All players know the risks if they get caught and so to do it regardless shows complete lack of respect. He deserves a two year ban just like all the other drug cheats - and just think about this, he's probably got a hefty mortgage to pay with no means to pay it - he's risked his family home for the sake of a couple of lines - the man's a fool and deserves everything that's coming to him.