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Lewis and the Licences : Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:38 pm  
Richard Lewis has made it clear that speculation about SL 2012-14 being a 15 or 16 club competition is unfounded:

http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_491 ... e-axe.html

In July at least one SL club will get the chop.

This is interesting in conjunction with the indications that TV funding is likely to go up substantially after the next contracts. This means the SL clubs 2012-14 could each receive a substantial hike in funds making them sounder financially.

So getting a licence this year may significantly improve Sl status long beyond 2014.

The hard work of Ken Davy, Richard Thewlis , Browny etc mean the Giants are seen as a cert for a licence and much stronger than the last time around..good times.
Richard Lewis has made it clear that speculation about SL 2012-14 being a 15 or 16 club competition is unfounded:

http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_491 ... e-axe.html

In July at least one SL club will get the chop.

This is interesting in conjunction with the indications that TV funding is likely to go up substantially after the next contracts. This means the SL clubs 2012-14 could each receive a substantial hike in funds making them sounder financially.

So getting a licence this year may significantly improve Sl status long beyond 2014.

The hard work of Ken Davy, Richard Thewlis , Browny etc mean the Giants are seen as a cert for a licence and much stronger than the last time around..good times.
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:56 pm  
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:54 am  
Ceejames wrote:
Richard Lewis has made it clear that speculation about SL 2012-14 being a 15 or 16 club competition is unfounded:

http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_491 ... e-axe.html

In July at least one SL club will get the chop.

This is interesting in conjunction with the indications that TV funding is likely to go up substantially after the next contracts. This means the SL clubs 2012-14 could each receive a substantial hike in funds making them sounder financially.

So getting a licence this year may significantly improve Sl status long beyond 2014.

The hard work of Ken Davy, Richard Thewlis , Browny etc mean the Giants are seen as a cert for a licence and much stronger than the last time around..good times.

which means an even more closed shop league than now.
Ceejames wrote:
Richard Lewis has made it clear that speculation about SL 2012-14 being a 15 or 16 club competition is unfounded:

http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_491 ... e-axe.html

In July at least one SL club will get the chop.

This is interesting in conjunction with the indications that TV funding is likely to go up substantially after the next contracts. This means the SL clubs 2012-14 could each receive a substantial hike in funds making them sounder financially.

So getting a licence this year may significantly improve Sl status long beyond 2014.

The hard work of Ken Davy, Richard Thewlis , Browny etc mean the Giants are seen as a cert for a licence and much stronger than the last time around..good times.

which means an even more closed shop league than now.
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:00 am  
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which means an even more closed shop league than now.


i agree but the alternative are whipping boys year in and year out, there needs to be a way to give teams a chance for 2 years whilst maintain the integrity of the game
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:11 pm  
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i agree but the alternative are whipping boys year in and year out, there needs to be a way to give teams a chance for 2 years whilst maintain the integrity of the game


woods got rid of the integrity of the game years ago.
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:55 pm  
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i agree but the alternative are whipping boys year in and year out, there needs to be a way to give teams a chance for 2 years whilst maintain the integrity of the game


Integrity?
What with the Fat Controller and his sidekick in charge?
Yer joking Right, those two do exactly what they want making it up as they go along and the game has lost its soul, yer it might all be rosy for you all cos of Uncle Ken's money and most other SL clubs (Wakey apart) but life outside is very hard and getting harder.
You still accept that no P&R and a club like Crusaders are really good for the game, honest?

Take a look at Oldham, Rochdale and Workington and you will see what the fatboy has done to OUR game.
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:14 am  
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Integrity?
What with the Fat Controller and his sidekick in charge?
Yer joking Right, those two do exactly what they want making it up as they go along and the game has lost its soul, yer it might all be rosy for you all cos of Uncle Ken's money and most other SL clubs (Wakey apart) but life outside is very hard and getting harder.
You still accept that no P&R and a club like Crusaders are really good for the game, honest?

Take a look at Oldham, Rochdale and Workington and you will see what the fatboy has done to OUR game.


Sorry but that's absolutely priceless. You use two clubs, Oldham and Workington, who were victims of the old system of promotion and relegation to try to illustrate what damage not having promotion and relegation has wrought on clubs.

Well done.
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:39 pm  
More to the point were part of the early Super League where clubs blew all their cash on inflating the wages of second rate journeymen instead of building solid foundations for themselves

If you want to know why clubs like fax, Oldham et al are in the mire its because of decades of bad management. Huddersfield were there once too, don't forget that.
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:07 am  
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More to the point were part of the early Super League where clubs blew all their cash on inflating the wages of second rate journeymen instead of building solid foundations for themselves

If you want to know why clubs like fax, Oldham et al are in the mire its because of decades of bad management. Huddersfield were there once too, don't forget that.


Yer they got it wrong, not denying that but the thing is they get no help unlike our friends in Wales, London and France who get preferential treatment - FACT.
The game outside of Super Duper League is finding it hard on dwindling crowds and with no prospect of prmotion it is killing the interest. People want top RL and that in lots of peoples eyes is SL yet we have no chance of getting in as we have to play by the rules of the Fat Controller who keeps moving the goalposts.
Maybe you aint noticed that Wakey and Crusaders have gone bust recently, with a team of second rate journeymen as you say, whats new? RL is skint there are not enough fans watching the game. Also you may not have noticed but the way RL works is even if you did produce a good young player then SL clubs can just take them cos Uncle Nigel and his cronies have made the rules thus.

You would be in the mire with us and the other plebs without Uncle Ken's millions, am I jealous? You bet I wish we had a rich sugar daddy to pump in millions every year.
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Re: Lewis and the Licences : Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:34 pm  
The game outside the top flight has been "dieing" for decades, but I suspect you didnt give a monkeys when Fax were in Super League or the old Div 1 before that. And certainly didnt give a monkeys when the cash was being divvied up at the start of Super League.

When Hudds were still in Div 3 and then Div 2 we saw our best and brightest players plundered by the biggest clubs. It even happened when we joined SL we'd see our best players get poached away, but its a fact of sporting life.

I dont want to see clubs go, I dont want to see lower level RL fall, but the simple fact is there needs to be a radical shift in thinking from fans AT ALL LEVELS if we want to keep them, and that might mean accepting that some clubs will never be in the top flight again, and thats based on the pure economics of scale and location.

Dewsbury and Batley for example, full or RL fans...most of them heading to Bradford rather then Owl Lane or Mount Pleasant, same for Fax and for a long time Huddersfield.

Most importantly though, fans and directors have to learn that clubs arent made in a day. Or even a season. One good season doenst make a team good enough for the top flight these days. Decades of improvement to the infrastructure does.
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