I think we can do both and want both, I think people's pessimism is due too previous bad years and we dearnt dream, or have ambition! I bet wigan and saints in thier Hay Day didnt think lets take 1. and both are past thier Hay Day no Doubt. Come on you GIANTS and come on you DONS, please pray for my main Team Doncaster in our hour of need, AGAIN. Donny lad living in the HUDD