That's 14 pages of people who are glad Saints ain't there for once - you are spot on what you say.

[url=http://viewtopic.php?t=424162I'd say this is further proof[/url

People used to say that about Hudds when they came back up into Super League in 2003, everyone said they were a dirty physical team that first season under Smith, because we were used to Hudds being everybodys bitches at the bottom of the table and that year they had a bit of fight for the first time

You are a top team because most leeds and saints fans will see you as a genuine threat in the playoffs and you are 3rd with the best defence.