: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:03 pm  

Does that therefore mean that the ball is, in effect, knocked on prior to the kick and the decision would be a tap twenty for the defending team, irrelevant of whether the ball goes dead or not.Or am I again being thick.

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:41 pm  

Mad_Jack_Mcmad wrote:

Does that therefore mean that the ball is, in effect, knocked on prior to the kick and the decision would be a tap twenty for the defending team, irrelevant of whether the ball goes dead or not.Or am I again being thick.

If your assuming that all drop kicks are knock on's then no. It would be where the drop kick was taken.

You have to keep in mind that a drop kick is not a knock on.

According to the international laws of the game if Player (A) misses a drop goal and the ball ends up in the in-goal area before being grounded by Player (A) then a try should be awarded. There is nothing in the laws to suggest that it is a knock on.

The point I am trying to make is where do you draw the line between a knock-on and a failed drop goal attempt?

I know it is a little far fetched to suggest Paul Deacon was attempting a drop goal in that situation seen last night, but under the logic applied by the video ref all drop kicks in general play would also be knock-ons.

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:47 pm  

I thought the drop kick thing was the foot stricking the ball immediately as it struck the ground, not after

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:49 pm  

PBGIANT wrote:

Ignore the Deacon incident.

Player (A) attempts a drop goal but misses horribly and the ball sits in the in-goal area. He chases his own kick and grounds the ball.

TRY

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:51 pm  

It would be a try.
A drop kick is a legitimate kick whether it be for a drop goal or not.
(I think )

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:08 pm  

Code13 wrote:

I thought the drop kick thing was the foot stricking the ball immediately as it struck the ground, not after

By definition a drop kick is a kick whereby the ball is dropped from the hands (or hand) and is kicked immediately as it rebounds from the ground.

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:14 pm  

So how long do they get before it stops being immediate?

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:25 pm  

Code13 wrote:

So how long do they get before it stops being immediate?

Before it hits the ground for the 2nd time would seem logical

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:33 pm  

Could you shape for a drop goal, let the ball bounce and then chip for the corner for a team mate to run on to or would that be similar to a doing the same with a penalty after indicting an attempt at goal.

: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:35 pm  

Baron Greenback wrote:

Get a grip son. PBG is a referee and last night's incident has probably provoked this post, but Deacon didn't even attempt a drop goal.

was the try given? your answer is NO