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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:21 am 
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well where do you start with that one we were DIRE. Not that i am surprised. I just knew it was gonna happen , big crowd, big anticipation, sky cameras ( extra pressure on the players to put in a big performance leading them to panic.) and then the curse of SKY. I have' nt watched it on Sky yet but where do we start.

Firstly the scoreline flattered the Giants we were out muscled in the forwards and lost that battle. they appeared to make more metres in the pack. Also they appeared stronger we regularly had three players in the tackle and could not put them on their backs.

Their rush defence was very good ( bordered on illegality at times as regularly looked offside) but they played to the ref and it worked.

We seem to have difficulty in our forwards in sucking in defenders and making gaps. It seems pointless to me to be playing those short passes around the ruck UNTIL you have either tired their forwards or are able to get quick PTB and exploit the gaps. too often we seemed to be sending our back row into heavy traffic this only tires them out and reduces the enegy levels.

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i am not sure what was worse our passing ability or decision making. some of our passing from Dummy half was appalling Moore and Brown seemed to be guilty of some of it( will check later).

Suicide passing in our own 20 metres . i fully understand the need to protect hodgson as our most creative player and also to try to counter attack from anywhere but trying to string several 20 metere passes together is a recipe for disaster ( or knock ons).

this allied with some of our short passing around the ruck is only going to lead to some of our players ending up in hospital.

Creativity and organisation too much responsibility on Brett Hodgson to be our main go to man. He needs some more help. I could not believe that when we were attacking the Hull line in the second half that we had Jackson at first reciever on the 5th tackle.

goal kicking is not good enough the first conversion miss was inexcusable. I really thought that it would be sorted now. It is dispiriting for the fans and the players to know that unless we score within 15 metres of the post we will only get 4 points.

Discipline giving away penalties is part of the game and is always open to interpretation but leap frogging an opponent getting off the ground or straddling him with your legs whilst getting up is silly.

Whilst i accept that too many indavidual errors may have cost the game yesterday s but some of the above points are recurring patterns which need to be sorted.

I would be happier if we played a little bit more conservatively for a while until a/ the players are better equipped skill wise and b/ Brown has recruited players that he wants.


Trying to play the fast attacking way Brown wants may work in australia where skill levels are higher but not yet with the crop of players that we have. I think tim Sheens at west tigers was recently talking about gareth ellis and he was saying how shocked he was at his poor skill level. well if ellis was not up to scratch then i am sure some of our players require remedial work.

I may be wrong on some this as it was the way i saw the game yesterday which is quite difficult when you are trying to get the crowd going and in pain after having a cortisone injection in my knee that afternoon. I will watch it on sky and reserve the right to amend anything and everything i said. :wink:


Still at least we can look forward to an away game next week without sky :?:

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We are on SKY next week :shock:






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I think Huddersfield have the make up of a really good side but it's at halfback where i think your weak.

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Quote:PONNER wrote
]We are on SKY next week :shock:



But we are playing away so we do not have the curse on us.

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Mark wrote:I think Huddersfield have the make up of a really good side but it's at halfback where i think your weak.
Hmmm I thought that up until 8pm last night :roll:






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Our passing was just terrible, and thats what lost us the game, in the cold light of day I cant even really fault their decision maknig, because, if the passes had stuck, we would have been brilliant.

Problem is they didnt, and what is bad is when they werent working we should have just played simple stuff and ground out the game, but they didnt, they wanted to be flash on every move and time and time again it failed.

4 points from 4 games, an infinite improvement on last season, and lets face it, we lost to 2 teams who are top 4 contenders, just a shame it was at home.

Away to Cas next week, Sky again so lets show the RL public just how well we can play.

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Well your guys gave them 2 points away pretty easily, with better ball control you could have won that game. So many errors cost you badly!






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PONNER wrote:Hull deserved to win by more last night, we were awful. Hull didn't win the game, we lost it. That was as bad as it gets I hope. Some predicted the loss before the game due to SKY showing the match. Why do we bother getting the big crowds in only to let them all down?


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We were in control throughout the match.






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pmarrow wrote::DOH:

We were in control throughout the match.


Only because we kept giving you the ball with absolutely no preassure to do so from your players.

(there was probably only one or two passes we dropped lasnt night due to preassure defence, everything else we spilled was our own ineptitude.)

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Without naming all the individuals who were awful, DG's piece says it all for me.

How many people prefer Brown and/or Robinson to Thorman now? He outplayed the both of them put together.

The only players to come out with any credit for me are Mason, Raleigh, and Lolesi with possibly Moore as well.






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