Giants versus wakey gates : Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:35 pm  

2008 Wakey vs Giants 6271
2009 Wakey vs Giants 5037



2008 Giants versus Wakey 5693*
2009 Giants versus Wakey 7486

(tv game? Trin say they took a lot more fans in '08 )

The difference in 08 was +578 Wakey now it is +2449 Giants

Clubs in close geographical area and having similar 'SL season'.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:01 pm  

You can just see where this is heading

I'll give it to the morning before the plug gets pulled

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:41 pm  

Gahan wrote:

You can just see where this is heading

I'll give it to the morning before the plug gets pulled

Surely no reason to pull it.

geographically close / similar season so worth a comparison. Will do likewise when we have played the Bulls.

[Durham Giant]

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:11 am  

The big concern about the dropping of gates ( or lower than expected increases) is that may reflect wider problems.

A the consequences of the credit crunch

B a crisis within the game of RL itself.

Both of those are something that we are not immune too. Neither is good for the game as a whole.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:46 am  

Have crowd figures dropped across Super League though?

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:47 am  

On the whole, no.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:51 am  

I don't think the credit crunch is entirely to blame.

The lack or P&R means that teams like ourselves and Wakie who have generally fought it out to avoid the drop have nothing to fight for. We won't be winning any GFs anytime soon and as such a good basement 4 pointer was the highlight of our seasons. Apathy has set in quickly amongst the supporters who 'won't miss anything' as all the tries are on Sky and the majority of results don't have any meaning.

Without our season ticket offer I am sure we would have seen a decrease in attendances too - but we'll see two seasons worth next year.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:57 am  

Average attendance throughout SL compared to last season is down 3%

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:12 am  

Wadski wrote:

The lack or P&R means that teams like ourselves and Wakie who have generally fought it out to avoid the drop have nothing to fight for. We won't be winning any GFs anytime soon and as such a good basement 4 pointer was the highlight of our seasons. Apathy has set in quickly amongst the supporters who 'won't miss anything' as all the tries are on Sky and the majority of results don't have any meaning.

I reckon that's probably a pertinent point.
Another interesting comparison would be the crowd figures at Wakey this season with the season they made the play-offs.

Wadski wrote:

Without our season ticket offer I am sure we would have seen a decrease in attendances too

Not so sure about that one. Consider the increase in our away following this season. Surely, since there is no reduction in the gate price away from home, form must have some bearing on that increase. That said, home form has not been as impressive as away this season.

Wadski wrote:

but we'll see two seasons worth next year.

It will be interesting to see if Ken continues the offer for another season.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:18 am  

Wadski wrote:

I don't think the credit crunch is entirely to blame.

Possibly

Wadski wrote:

The lack or P&R means that teams like ourselves and Wakie who have generally fought it out to avoid the drop have nothing to fight for. We won't be winning any GFs anytime soon and as such a good basement 4 pointer was the highlight of our seasons. Apathy has set in quickly amongst the supporters who 'won't miss anything' as all the tries are on Sky and the majority of results don't have any meaning.

I really dissagree with that sentiment.

Those "highlights" are ones I could certainly do without, the game on Sunday was a big game, a win pushed us into 3rd in the league fer crying out loud, we might not be winning the Grand Final any time soon, but we are knocking on the door at the head of the "best of the rest" cue.

There is still only a comparitivly small number of fans who have sky and watch "all the tries" and so their only option is to go live or to hope The Superleague Show has more than 30s of their game on.

As for the majority of results have no meaning? How do you figure that on out? And how, really, is that actually different from last season?

The middle of the league is seperated by a handfull of points, we ourselves know a bad couple of weeks can see a team sink down, and a good week can see one rocket back again.

We have to keep knocking off our results each week to stay in our present position, so certainly all our games matter (well they do to me)

Without our season ticket offer I am sure we would have seen a decrease in attendances too - but we'll see two seasons worth next year.

Perhaps, but is that because, as I suspect, fewer away fans are coming - due to the credit crunch. We upped our home numbers thanks to the offer, but lost out on visiting fans due to the financial situation which is a very real effect across all sides of industry and entertainment.

Maybe the credit crunch isnt to blame, but its 95% responsible.