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Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford
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Author:  GIANTSRL [ Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

surprised some think matago had a good game :shock:

he did an 18min stint first half.... taai came on and changed the game for us

matagi came back on second half and gave away two penalties and was subbed soone after... how is that a good game?

and im sorry but we lose the ruck and collision in tackles far too often and it puts us under pressure, we need some size.... ikahihifo could help on that front but hes frozen out.

when you think how much of our salary cap is not playing it makes you wonder something has gone wrong....... uate / frawley / ikahihifo / cudjoe.... got to be 4 of our biggest earners... imagine any other team having the size of that out of their team.... and 3 of them can actually play right now!

Author:  jools [ Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

GIANTSRL wrote:surprised some think matago had a good game :shock:

he did an 18min stint first half.... taai came on and changed the game for us

matagi came back on second half and gave away two penalties and was subbed soone after... how is that a good game?

and im sorry but we lose the ruck and collision in tackles far too often and it puts us under pressure, we need some size.... ikahihifo could help on that front but hes frozen out.

when you think how much of our salary cap is not playing it makes you wonder something has gone wrong....... uate / frawley / ikahihifo / cudjoe.... got to be 4 of our biggest earners... imagine any other team having the size of that out of their team.... and 3 of them can actually play right now!


So are you suggesting Matagi is dropped for seb :CRAZY:

Author:  GIANTSRL [ Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

jools wrote:So are you suggesting Matagi is dropped for seb :CRAZY:


well thats not going to happen is it

an in form seb id pick over most sl props in the league... shame woolford froze him out as he wants that cap space to bring someone else in.

a matagi one good game in every 7 or a seb 1 good game every 3?

have them both in the team if you like i dont mind..

matagi needs to be more consistent for me.

Author:  jools [ Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

GIANTSRL wrote:well thats not going to happen is it

an in form seb id pick over most sl props in the league... shame woolford froze him out as he wants that cap space to bring someone else in.

a matagi one good game in every 7 or a seb 1 good game every 3?

have them both in the team if you like i dont mind..

matagi needs to be more consistent for me.


Seb didn’t have one good game in a season - if we are comparing what he showed he was capable of in 2017. He’s not been in form has he.

Author:  GiantJake1988 [ Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

Not a fan of either Seb or Matagi. Seb was dire the whole of 2018, a fraction of the player he wasn't in 2017.

Matagi, like Brearley says has 1 good game every now and again, not adequate for me.

Author:  GIANTSRL [ Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

seb was ok in 2018...no worse than the rest, he had a few injury problems

for me we should have tried to get him back to the 2017 form, we know what he can do, but woolford went the wrong way about it and i thought it might end up how it had, what a waste

Author:  jools [ Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

GIANTSRL wrote:seb was ok in 2018...no worse than the rest, he had a few injury problems

for me we should have tried to get him back to the 2017 form, we know what he can do, but woolford went the wrong way about it and i thought it might end up how it had, what a waste


Woolford wanted to see him step up- he’s failed to do that- disappointing.
One thing woolford has banged on about since he arrived is resilience- has seb shown any resilience?

Author:  fartown since 1961 [ Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

6-0 up we are in possession and instead of driving the ball upfield we go sideways force a pass and bingo 6-6

Murphy Stops the play the ball why?... bingo 10 minutes in the bin but on the one occasion we tried to take a quick one play is stopped ref out of position. Wakey do the same ref out of position play on ... consistency NO !!

Almost half time we give it to Mellor !!!! to kick bingo straight out ball back and right on half time try 16-10 ‘farcical’ We had chance to get the fullback before the pass but no..... we just look at him watch him run across the line and pass and try...

Then the Woolford team talk and we turn up after half time and get dominated and bullied... Give away another stupid try (Leroy) and again look as if we don't know each other.

If we can’t motivate with jobs on the line then we deserve everything we get !!!

Our line speed and drive 2nd half was so slow hadwe been the Titanic we would have missed the iceberg..

Where does it go from here ??

Having watched the highlights it looks even worse

Author:  willo109 [ Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:20 am ]
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fartown since 1961 wrote:6-0 up we are in possession and instead of driving the ball upfield we go sideways force a pass and bingo 6-6

Murphy has to open his mouth to the ref... bingo 10 minutes in the bin

Almost half time we give it to Mellor !!!! to kick bingo straight out ball back and right on half time try 16-10 ‘farcical’ We had chance to get the fullback before the pass but no..... we just look at him watch him run across the line and pass and try...

Then the Woolford team talk and we turn up after half time and get dominated and bullied... Give away another stupid try (Leroy) and again look as if we don't know each other.

If we can’t motivate with jobs on the line then we deserve everything we get !!!

Our line speed and drive 2nd half was so slow hadwe been the Titanic we would have missed the iceberg..

Where does it go from here ??

Agree with everything apart from Murphy got done for stopping them taking a quick tap yet their guy kicks the ball away near the end after he penalises them yet no son binning, no consistency from the ref apart from being one-eyed, not blaming him for one minute, but I'm sick of watching mickey poor officials. They were there for the taking and as you muted the score after our first try and the one before half time were the game changes. Onwards and upwards to Salford

Author:  wotsupcas [ Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dumb, dumber, dumber and dumber and Wolford

willo109 wrote:Agree with everything apart from Murphy got done for stopping them taking a quick tap yet their guy kicks the ball away near the end after he penalises them yet no son binning, no consistency from the ref apart from being one-eyed, not blaming him for one minute, but I'm sick of watching mickey poor officials. They were there for the taking and as you muted the score after our first try and the one before half time were the game changes. Onwards and upwards to Salford

Preventing a quick tap is a sin binning. Kicking the ball away after being pulled for offside(which he wasn't) isn't. Maybe you need to brush up on the rules.

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