Re: Grand Final betting tip : Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:13 pm  

In 2001 Bradford and St Helens laid claim to providing the worst Challenge Cup Final (it was played at Twickenham). A low scoring encounter played in very wet conditions similar to the Wigan v Hull Wembley final.

Bradford then beat Wigan 37-6 in the Grand Final the same season. Mark Rammond makes a very valid point that Hull are a much better deal than their odds of 50/1 suggest. Take the drab Wembley encounter out of the equation and whilst Hull may not repeat Bradford's achievement I still think they are worth a punt at the odds they are.

Re: Grand Final betting tip : Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:30 pm  

Jack Marston wrote:

In 2001 Bradford and St Helens laid claim to providing the worst Challenge Cup Final (it was played at Twickenham). A low scoring encounter played in very wet conditions similar to the Wigan v Hull Wembley final.

Bradford then beat Wigan 37-6 in the Grand Final the same season. Mark Rammond makes a very valid point that Hull are a much better deal than their odds of 50/1 suggest. Take the drab Wembley encounter out of the equation and whilst Hull may not repeat Bradford's achievement I still think they are worth a punt at the odds they are.

That Bradford team was 10 x better than this Hull team. I really can't see them winning the GF, they haven't the got the champion playmakers.

Re: Grand Final betting tip : Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:44 pm  

Whilst it was the worst Final I have ever seen, Hull did look fairly solid in defence against Wigan. However, their attack looked incredibly poor. The conditions changed the way they attacked but they still looked as though they had no leadership whatsoever.

Looking at this year's results, Hull have lost at home to Huddersfield, Catalans, Wigan and Warrington. Looking at their away form, they have lost to Leeds, Huddersfield and Catalans, drew with a poor Saints side and beat a weakened Wigan side last week.

Out of ten games this year against the sides from 1st-4th, Hull have only conceded an average 21.7 points in comparison with them scoring an average of 15.6 points in the same games.

Huddersfield would be my bet, albeit not the best bet going.

Now that Huddersfield have the League Leaders Shield sewn up, they will now face whoever finishes in 4th, which will be Wigan or Leeds who play tomorrow.

Huddersfield have beaten Wigan twice this year (22-10 and 12-30) and have beaten Leeds on all three occasions they've played (8-32, 24-8 and 40-18). A win against either guarantees the use of the horrific Club Call and although this is yet to work for the club calling their opponent, Huddersfield will be hoping that Hull KR, St Helens or Catalans are still in the competition at this point.

Warrington have beaten Huddersfield twice out of three games this year but Warrington hadn't played at full strength, out of choice may I add, for a while before the St Helens game and their may be rustiness there to capitalise upon.

Re: Grand Final betting tip : Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:08 am  

hi Mark, I dont fancy this bet but I'd like to thank you for drawing my attention to the fabulous 4/1 Stan James were offering on Huddersfield for the LLS. I stuck £100 on - my biggest ever wager - and my £400 winnings are my 3rd best in my lifetime so a big thanks!

Re: Grand Final betting tip : Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:24 pm  

Hello all,

It is very pleasing to hear of a few winners on the Huddersfield Giants tip.

My best ever win was Antonio Kaufusi to score first (£20), last (£20) and at anytime (£20) at Salford a couple of years back. We were losing 44-0 and nabbed two quick tries, with the second being on the 68th minute and that was AK. After that no one seemed interested and that came in at both 6/1 and 50/1 so nearly £1200.

I also had £32 on different bets for first goalscorer, anytime and last on Gary Cahill for England a while back and that came it around £660.

On London I got my best win for a while against Bradford last week, laying them off at about 7.2/1 on the betting exchanges for just over £150 and I made over £400 when we beat Wigan away on St George's Day in 2010. But I have lost overall on London that is for sure.

I have tended to lose money on short odds tips betting on clear favourites to cover the spread such as Man City -1.5 v Cardiff and in failing to look at circumstances where the clear favourite is not as motivated as you'd think, so I haven't been publishing many tips in the RL as most games are near dead rubbers this year.

I agree with those commentators that Giants are favourites, you'd get 4/1 on them winning three games (or about 4/3 on them winning two), or 16/1 on Hull winning the three games to make the final and I think both look good value.

I'd like to think Hull can make the qualification play off and we be holding a 16/1 shot on one making the play off, we can then pump money on the opponent and dutch our chances.

Without two wins we are screwed.

Cheers
Rammo

PS I am on Stan Wawrinka +5.5 v Murray tonight at about 5/6 Banged on about £36.

Re: Grand Final betting tip : Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:05 pm  

Under 3.5 eng v Moldova evens

Lump on that

Re: Grand Final betting tip : Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:30 pm  

I've put an each way bet on HullFC to get there. And I'll be quids in even if they get to the GF!

Re: Grand Final betting tip : Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:14 pm  

Very pleased Hull have got the home tie v Catalans.

Dureau missed a penalty which was easy from just 19 metres out which would have seen the draw.

Both Hull & Hull KR winning will be ideal, that will give FC two home ties.

If they win both, we can then bet on the semi final knowing that our Team A winning will give us a guaranteed 16/1.

So we can then lump on Team B and still make plenty of coin.

Two wins FC please!