SUPER league, elstone gone. : Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:29 pm  

Should please a lot of folk.

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:14 pm  

Didn't like London Broncos thats for sure. One less scousers isn't a big loss.

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:36 am  

He promised a lot, but failed to deliver.
Mind you I think trying to run the Super League, which is very factional. Is a thankless task.

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:08 am  

The major problem with Super League is a few Club Chairmen who think they run the game!

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 pm  

No, the main problem with SL is a few clubs who bring nothing to the competition - no player development, no fans, no facilities, no investors, no corporate support - and exist solely to fulfil fixtures and live for another day.

That's not to say I rate Elstone at all, I think he's been awful. But the sport just isn't set up to succeed. It needs root and branch reform, which is never going to happen. The future of RL in England is very firmly as a training ground for the NRL - we're seeing younger and younger players leaving now, 2 lads have recently gone to Australia without ever playing in SL. We might get a decent England team out of it, but the club scene will continue to be diminished.

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:11 pm  

nadera78 wrote:

No, the main problem with SL is a few clubs who bring nothing to the competition.

One club chairman & one CEO, seem to think they rule the game,!Elstone has been a disappointment, but I wonder how much his hands were tied? Agree some clubs do bring little, especially with development, I've said before there were 9 under 16 clubs in my birth town, I ran one with a friend, the pro club decided to start an under 16 side, next season it was down to TWO under 16 clubs? a successful club butthey never helped once with the local amateur youth game!

I get more concerned if we end up reverting to just being The RFL again, more so under Rimmer! We neeed someone with personality and who understands the sport, inside out, Jon Wilkin?

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:38 pm  

jaybs wrote:

One club chairman & one CEO, seem to think they rule the game,!Elstone has been a disappointment, but I wonder how much his hands were tied? Agree some clubs do bring little, especially with development, I've said before there were 9 under 16 clubs in my birth town, I ran one with a friend, the pro club decided to start an under 16 side, next season it was down to TWO under 16 clubs? a successful club butthey never helped once with the local amateur youth game!

I get more concerned if we end up reverting to just being The RFL again, more so under Rimmer! We neeed someone with personality and who understands the sport, inside out, Jon Wilkin?

Wilkin????? What does he know about running an organisation! There lies the problem with RL fans.

Get a proper business minded, experienced CEO in.

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:54 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Wilkin????? What does he know about running an organisation! There lies the problem with RL fans.

Get a proper business minded, experienced CEO in.

Can i remind you that Gus was an experienced CEO, sadly he just wasn't very good at it.

I'm not sure those SL clubs that do so little to advance the game ahead of their teams would allow a strong CEO the amount of control needed to drive the game forward so am expecting a puppet appointment in due course

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:31 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Wilkin????? What does he know about running an organisation! There lies the problem with RL fans.

Get a proper business minded, experienced CEO in.

Wilkin is a very successful businessman! I would rather have someone who can present the right image for the sport, and knows what he's talking about!

I was all for the involvement with our game from Barry & Eddie Hearn, but those two high powered club chairmen & CEO's, didn't like the idea of losing their power!

Re: SUPER league, elstone gone. : Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:08 pm  

Agree with you jaybs, he does have the right sort of image to move the game forward. At least i understand what he says but always consider putting on the subtitles when Jamie Peacock is talking.

Whoever is appointed, they will still have to deal with the blinkered view of some SL owners.