: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:55 am  

aspouea wrote:

Exactly what I said yesterday. Great minds eh? Boss Hogg said we didn't need a shirt sponsorship because it only brought in 40-50k, yet the Ad in TNT cost 20k. So we're 70k down for the sake of a one off match.

The club has long had links with TNT. Until recently the logo was on our sleeves if I recall. So surely some sort of deal could have been sorted. For example main shirt sponsor in return for regular good size Ads in TNT with a discount voucher in each. This would not only get more antipodeans to the Stoop, but would also get non-antipodeans picking up and potentially reading TNT which increase the TNT readership. Seems to me to be of mutual benefit and with not a penny changing hands.

I think if we are to promote a magazine then PLAYBOY and the bunny head would look splendid! Think of the fringe benefits with regards the cheerleaders.

Did anyone see the new RL code of conduct for cheerleading the other night? No exposed arms or midrifts! The PC brigade get everywhere these days.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:59 am  

aspouea wrote:

Exactly what I said yesterday. Great minds eh? Boss Hogg said we didn't need a shirt sponsorship because it only brought in 40-50k, yet the Ad in TNT cost 20k. So we're 70k down for the sake of a one off match.

The club has long had links with TNT. Until recently the logo was on our sleeves if I recall. So surely some sort of deal could have been sorted. For example main shirt sponsor in return for regular good size Ads in TNT with a discount voucher in each. This would not only get more antipodeans to the Stoop, but would also get non-antipodeans picking up and potentially reading TNT which increase the TNT readership. Seems to me to be of mutual benefit and with not a penny changing hands.

Sounds good to me.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:16 am  

Focusing on the game itself; let's not forget it was for Manly's benefit so I'm sure it's no coincidence that our strong team played the first half and there's the second.
If we play like we did in the first half we will do Wigan on Saturday - if Manly play like they did in the second half Leeds will be lucky to hold them to 40!
Great game - Manly's defensive line speed and movement off the ball in the second half was a joy to behold. Anyone who think Super League is better football then the NRL is living in Cloud Cuckoo Land.
Don't forget also we lost the game basically because of a dreadful pass in his own 20 from Mat Gardner, and an uncharacteristic howler of a one on one tackle from Matt Gafa on Matai.
Some real positives for us though - LMS was aggressive and ran great lines. Will Sharp was as fast as the wind; Purdham and Dorn worked superbly in attack; John Wells work-rate in the first half was excellent; Luke Gale looked the part; and Tony Clubb did not look out of place against any of those Manly players.
Good banter developed in the East Stand - let's hope some of the Aussies give us a go on Saturday.
We're off to Leeds next Sunday to cheer Manly on; even though as a Newcastle knights fan that sticks in my throat.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:31 am  

aspouea wrote:

Exactly what I said yesterday. Great minds eh? Boss Hogg said we didn't need a shirt sponsorship because it only brought in 40-50k, yet the Ad in TNT cost 20k. So we're 70k down for the sake of a one off match.

The club has long had links with TNT. Until recently the logo was on our sleeves if I recall. So surely some sort of deal could have been sorted. For example main shirt sponsor in return for regular good size Ads in TNT with a discount voucher in each. This would not only get more antipodeans to the Stoop, but would also get non-antipodeans picking up and potentially reading TNT which increase the TNT readership. Seems to me to be of mutual benefit and with not a penny changing hands.

Didn't we stop the TNT promotion because Aussies weren't coming to our SL matches? Hopefully the experience at the Manly game will get a few coming back regularly but I'm not especially hopeful.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:44 am  

The Penguin wrote:

Didn't we stop the TNT promotion because Aussies weren't coming to our SL matches? Hopefully the experience at the Manly game will get a few coming back regularly but I'm not especially hopeful.

Various figures have been mentioned as to the budget that was spent promoting this game, but even if it was the highest estimate of £12,500 then that works out at £3.12 per fan if you accept that there were 4,000 antipodeans at the game.
Simple maths dictate that even with the 20% discount, a £12 ticket gives you £8.88 profit and an extra opportunity to sell beer, food and goodies from the shop.
The relationship with TNT must be nurtured.......they are our best chance of a quick fan gain. I still believe we need to attract locals to the games, but if TNT can help us bolt on 1,000 a game, then great.
I suspect that the bars took the most money they ever have for a RL game since we moved back to the stoop and the girls in the shop said that they were very busy....I even spent £52.50 on a pair Union college scarfs...
This was a success...pure and simple and it must be replicated for every game this year. Did anyone hear an Australian saying they wouldn't come back?
Lastly, quote of the day heard in the ladies toilet. One 'stalian to another
"geeze...there's footie, a live band and a bar......why would you go anywhere else on a Sunday"

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:44 am  

The Penguin wrote:

Didn't we stop the TNT promotion because Aussies weren't coming to our SL matches? Hopefully the experience at the Manly game will get a few coming back regularly but I'm not especially hopeful.

If you heard the comments from a couple of Aussies on BBC Radio London post match there won't be many coming back. To far to travel from central London. One advocated we play at Fulham or Clapham! Bl**dy hell, what do we have to do.

The radio presenter said as much to Rammo, his words were something like..." ... what does he want the club to do, play the game in his back garden?..".

The club has a lot of work to do, a good crowd next week against Wigan will help!

I did for a split second land on Quins v Gloworms on Saturday. The East stand full (and the rest of the ground for that matter) did look impressive from a camera located in the Lexus.

Gutterfax thought the Lexus was 1/2 full yesterday .. i'd say 2/3rds. I would have said 7000 was the gate yesterday.

Love the bit about the 17 seater coach and five taxi's, we truely can't organise a pie festival in a pie shop some times!

Roll on Wigan, a full 80 like our first 40 and two points is ours.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:49 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Various figures have been mentioned as to the budget that was spent promoting this game, but even if it was the highest estimate of £12,500 then that works out at £3.12 per fan if you accept that there were 4,000 antipodeans at the game.
Simple maths dictate that even with the 20% discount, a £12 ticket gives you £8.88 profit and an extra opportunity to sell beer, food and goodies from the shop.
The relationship with TNT must be nurtured.......they are our best chance of a quick fan gain. I still believe we need to attract locals to the games, but if TNT can help us bolt on 1,000 a game, then great.
I suspect that the bars took the most money they ever have for a RL game since we moved back to the stoop and the girls in the shop said that they were very busy....I even spent £52.50 on a pair Union college scarfs...
This was a success...pure and simple and it must be replicated for every game this year. Did anyone hear an Australian saying they wouldn't come back?
Lastly, quote of the day heard in the ladies toilet. One 'stalian to another
"geeze...there's footie, a live band and a bar......why would you go anywhere else on a Sunday"

If there were 4000 Aussies/Kiwis there then I am surprised. Yes there were plenty, but at the south end of the east stand there was but a handful. I don't for one minute think they out numbered Brits 2 to 1.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:49 am  

retirethename wrote:

Gutterfax thought the Lexus was 1/2 full yesterday .. i'd say 2/3rds. I would have said 7000 was the gate yesterday.

Please feel free to PM Paddock with this information
As for the Austalians who moaned about how far away we are I would suspect that for every one of them, there were 500 odd who enjoyed themselves and will come back IF ASKED!

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:50 am  

retirethename wrote:

If there were 4000 Aussies/Kiwis there then I am surprised. Yes there were plenty, but at the south end of the east stand there was but a handful. I don't for one minute think they out numbered Brits 2 to 1.

I reckon there were 4000 easily. They probably outnumbered Brits 10 to 1 in the bar after the game.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:53 am  

Dave Lister wrote:

I reckon there were 4000 easily. They probably outnumbered Brits 10 to 1 in the bar after the game.

Well that bit doesn't surprise me!