: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:08 pm  

mightyquin wrote:

Can't understand that as there were HKR fans in our section that is meant to be reserved for Quins fans. Probably due to the people selling the tickets at the gates as HKR fans were, apparently, not told what block to sit in and to sit anywhere. There were some in our season ticket seats and they were very rude when asked to move and were very reluctant to do so. Eventually the stewards did begin checking tickets and the HKR fans moved to the North stand. This is very poor for all concerend, Quins and away fans, and something needs to be done about it before the next home game.

Did you ask them to move in a polite and curtious manner ?

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:22 am  

mightyquin wrote:

Can't understand that as there were HKR fans in our section that is meant to be reserved for Quins fans. Probably due to the people selling the tickets at the gates as HKR fans were, apparently, not told what block to sit in and to sit anywhere. There were some in our season ticket seats and they were very rude when asked to move and were very reluctant to do so. Eventually the stewards did begin checking tickets and the HKR fans moved to the North stand. This is very poor for all concerend, Quins and away fans, and something needs to be done about it before the next home game.

I was in the north stand but had friends who went in the east stand (they'd paid at the ticket office), they took up their seats in the second block in from the north end as most rovers fans in the east stand did, but I have to say both blocks at the north end of the east stand were practically empty so I can't see any problems with people sitting in other peoples seats. whilst not condoning rudeness, If i'd plonked myself down and was surrounded by empty seats all around and someone came up and demanded I move because those specific chairs were theirs I'd be pretty ruffled also, (apologies if this was not your specific situation)

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:27 am  

sandy wrote:

I was in the north stand but had friends who went in the east stand (they'd paid at the ticket office), they took up their seats in the second block in from the north end as most rovers fans in the east stand did, but I have to say both blocks at the north end of the east stand were practically empty so I can't see any problems with people sitting in other peoples seats. whilst not condoning rudeness, If i'd plonked myself down and was surrounded by empty seats all around and someone came up and demanded I move because those specific chairs were theirs I'd be pretty ruffled also, (apologies if this was not your specific situation)

Mate...as far as I am concerened as long as ST seats weren't being squatted in, people should have been able to sit where they wanted. I was in section AC and it was only 1/2 full at best, so I don't see what the problem is. I fully inderstand that some of your fans didn't want to sit in the North.....ear defenders would have been required

Re: This Afternoon : Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:02 am  

Surreyben wrote:

It seemed very subdued today. Exceptional volume from the HKR fans.

Only when their team got on top in the second half. That's how it sounded to me at the south end of the east stand, anyway.

Re: This Afternoon : Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:22 am  

BroncOnIon wrote:

Only when their team got on top in the second half. That's how it sounded to me at the south end of the east stand, anyway.

To be fair, there were about 30 of them who were vocal pretty much all the time. The remainder joined in when they got on top.
FWI, I thought we were the far better side in the first half, but weren't ruthless enough. Second hald, we just didn't turn up. I got that bored that I started counting the fans in the North Stamd and there were about 550...with another 100 or so scattered around the North end of the East....so good turn out from the HKR masssive.
As has been alluded to here a few times, it is getting harder for away teams to bring down many fans as they are now faced with Catalans, Celtic and Quins as potential bank breakers. Still, if they brought 750, then that means we had 2,750 "home fans" at the game...let's hopewe can get these people back

Re: This Afternoon : Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:01 pm  

BroncOnIon wrote:

Only when their team got on top in the second half. That's how it sounded to me at the south end of the east stand, anyway.

They only piped up after they were two clear then just went through their 3 song repertoire over and over

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:06 pm  

5 games into our 13 home matches this year and we are 6,453 down on attendances. (nearly 1,300 a game)

Wigan - 4,158
Warrington -416
Hull FC -200
Catalan -611
HKR - 1,068

Now, lots of possible reasons for this and to be fair, last years goons figure was littered with freebies, so in real terms, we seem to be losing 500 a game on average.
I would think that a fair amount of these are away fans who aren't coming down due to the new long distance games (France and Wales) as well as a smattering of stay away londoners.

The problem we have is that we don't (in most cases) know who these fans are. I believe that we need to proactively canvas fans for their details at games. Offer a box for 10 as a prize, free tickets, away coach fare paid or something, in exchange for their details. Then we need to ask them for feedback and suggestions.
Simply put, the 3 games against Wire, FC and Wigan in 2005 brought us 3,219 more fans (£32k in ticket revenue alone) and as we are now in our 4th year as QRL.....we really need to address this decline before it becomes terminal.

I believe that HKR brought 250 less yesterday than last year, so where have the other 750 fans from last year gone If we were to lose another 750 next year, and HKR bring 250 less again, we will be averaging 2,000 a game by the end of 2010

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:08 pm  

sandy wrote:

I was in the north stand but had friends who went in the east stand (they'd paid at the ticket office), they took up their seats in the second block in from the north end as most rovers fans in the east stand did, but I have to say both blocks at the north end of the east stand were practically empty so I can't see any problems with people sitting in other peoples seats. whilst not condoning rudeness, If i'd plonked myself down and was surrounded by empty seats all around and someone came up and demanded I move because those specific chairs were theirs I'd be pretty ruffled also, (apologies if this was not your specific situation)

And that's exactly what happened, as I was the one that moved ! ! !

Basically, we turned up at the ground 2 hours before kick off, paid through the turnstyles, and sat in the main stand to watch the reserve match. At no point did any club official state that there were reserved seating anywhere, and I specifically checked to see if any of the seats had "reserved" stickers on them. All seats were unreserved, and the stand was almost empty.

45 minutes before kick off, the main stand (which I presume holds about 4000) had about 100 fans in it, and this old git with his howling witch of a wife, can up to us, shouting, screaming and demanding that we moved.

Now, dont get me wrong, if we were sat in somebodys season ticket seat, I would happily move, I did ask him what seat was his and he said "all of them". This was clearly not the case, so we just moved 10 seats toward the half way line.

He then ran over to blab to the steward (honestly, it was like watching a child in the playground running to teacher ! ). When the steward came, he asked to see our ticket which confirmed we were in the correct stand, he then asked us to move a few blocks, as he did not want this bloke causing trouble. We happily obliged and moved, and had a chat with the steward about the how out of order and rude the old git was.

In 25 years of attending hundreds of away matches, I have never been in a situation like this, and this mindless idiot and his howling baboon of a wife, has, in my book, tarnished the reputation of your club. He acted in an unofficial capacity, and had no authority to demand where other supporters sat.

In consequence, I will certainly reconsider driving a 500 mile round trip to attend another Quins match again.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:21 pm  

Bombers Double Chin wrote:

And that's exactly what happened, as I was the one that moved ! ! !

Basically, we turned up at the ground 2 hours before kick off, paid through the turnstyles, and sat in the main stand to watch the reserve match. At no point did any club official state that there were reserved seating anywhere, and I specifically checked to see if any of the seats had "reserved" stickers on them. All seats were unreserved, and the stand was almost empty.

45 minutes before kick off, the main stand (which I presume holds about 4000) had about 100 fans in it, and this old git with his howling witch of a wife, can up to us, shouting, screaming and demanding that we moved.

Now, dont get me wrong, if we were sat in somebodys season ticket seat, I would happily move, I did ask him what seat was his and he said "all of them". This was clearly not the case, so we just moved 10 seats toward the half way line.

He then ran over to blab to the steward (honestly, it was like watching a child in the playground running to teacher ! ). When the steward came, he asked to see our ticket which confirmed we were in the correct stand, he then asked us to move a few blocks, as he did not want this bloke causing trouble. We happily obliged and moved, and had a chat with the steward about the how out of order and rude the old git was.

In 25 years of attending hundreds of away matches, I have never been in a situation like this, and this mindless idiot and his howling baboon of a wife, has, in my book, tarnished the reputation of your club. He acted in an unofficial capacity, and had no authority to demand where other supporters sat.

In consequence, I will certainly reconsider driving a 500 mile round trip to attend another Quins match again.

Sorry you had a bad experience and that you will be thinking hard before returning. I fully appreciate the ticketing at the stoop needs sorting out and, without defending this fellow or his good lady wife you were not the problem......it has just become a bit of an issue down here with "some" ST holders and the clubs seating arrangements for 2009.
I on the other hand am looking forward to my first trip to Caravan Park...and I don't care where I stand/sit as long as we get revenge for yesterday.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:51 pm  

I too sat amongst your home support yesterday, I got my ticket from your ticket office, as I enjoy watching from the side on and not the away behind the sticks end. When I got the ticket I was only asked what price I wished to pay as it went up the closer to the centre of the stand. Having my away HKR top on the young lady didnt appear to be bothered only pointing out the increased prices.

As to vocal I thought you sounded loud the first half, but your right tin roof helps away fans.

I didnt have any probs with home Fans sat very near too them, just good natured banter, so Thanks for an enjoyable day out, and I shall be there next season.