Re: Skolars and our reserves. : Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:59 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Just been looking over the Skolars results from the last few weeks and was stunned to see they have shipped in 222 points in their last three home games and only registered 16.

I play for the U14's so I get to go to the first team games for free, and my accompanying parent can get in for £6 so my father and I went to see the game against the Rams yesterday and the Skolars did not do that bad despite the fact we lost 64-0. The only reasons the Skolars did not score was because of a couple of errors and the Rams scored at least three tries because of a bad referee - they scored twice from twenty metre restarts that were taken before the referee blew his whistle and one try was scored from a double movement. I do not think the Skolars need to do that much to start winning games.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:22 pm  

I like Your optimism

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:28 pm  

Indeed. Thats the first time i've seen a team lose 64-0 who are "not that bad".

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:33 pm  

You there then yesterday Listy?

Re: Skolars and our reserves. : Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:33 pm  

Batman in Disguise wrote:

I play for the U14's so I get to go to the first team games for free, and my accompanying parent can get in for £6 so my father and I went to see the game against the Rams yesterday and the Skolars did not do that bad despite the fact we lost 64-0. The only reasons the Skolars did not score was because of a couple of errors and the Rams scored at least three tries because of a bad referee - they scored twice from twenty metre restarts that were taken before the referee blew his whistle and one try was scored from a double movement. I do not think the Skolars need to do that much to start winning games.

Yeah....11 tries to nil this weekend and in total 38 against, with Matt Thomas getting 3 in reply over the last 3 home games....progress
Put another way, a points difference of -483 after 10 games is just terrible. Refs must really hate us down here

Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble, but the Skolars are in freefall and unless something is done and done soon, they will be looking forward to derbies with South London Storm in the not too distant future.

I only suggested we help......but if the one eyed people that run the club cant be @rsed accepting assistance, then good riddance.
Bad ref causes 11 try to nil massacre.....I can see the local paper now

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:38 pm  

Windy one wrote:

You there then yesterday Listy?

Of course

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:43 pm  

To ne fair Dewsbury are unbeaten in this division and for the first 15 minutes it was close. Thorman got injured and it was downhill all the way.

Skolars need an experienced coach like Latham Tawhai, and to be honest Skolars have been going downhill since Quins nicked him. There is young talent at the Skolars but it will be squandered unless a stronger coaching set-up is established. A strong Skolars is obviously good for London, we want more Joe Mbu's.

Re: Skolars and our reserves. : Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:49 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Now, with no coach in place do you think it would be worth getting say 8 or 9 Quins Reserves over to them for a few weeks to steady the ship? I hate to see Skolars getting tonked every week and applaud the 300 odd hardy souls who roll up to support the side, but being hammered week in week out isn't going to give them any chance of growing.
Our reserves don't have a fixture on the 19th of July and a fair few Quins fans have been bu99ered by Sky moving the game, so they may well get a few of us down for the Rochdale game if we had some familiar faces to cheer on.

I have to say I don't agree. I think it's fair enough for us to loan Skolars one or two players a week, but it would be completely wrong for a team representing Skolars to be a majority Quins RL players. Skolars have got a lot that needs sorting out. I've been down there to watch them a couple a times a season over the last 3 or 4 years, and since Latham left them to come to us, it appears to have fallen apart big time. All of the momentum they made under him has gone. Skolars need to get a grip (and no, I don't know what the answer is), but in order to have any credability they must never field anything like 8 or 9 Quins reserves players. How could a team fielding 8 or 9 Quins reserves be a "London Skolars" team?

Re: Skolars and our reserves. : Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:52 am  

Surreyben wrote:

I have to say I don't agree. I think it's fair enough for us to loan Skolars one or two players a week, but it would be completely wrong for a team representing Skolars to be a majority Quins RL players. Skolars have got a lot that needs sorting out. I've been down there to watch them a couple a times a season over the last 3 or 4 years, and since Latham left them to come to us, it appears to have fallen apart big time. All of the momentum they made under him has gone. Skolars need to get a grip (and no, I don't know what the answer is), but in order to have any credability they must never field anything like 8 or 9 Quins reserves players. How could a team fielding 8 or 9 Quins reserves be a "London Skolars" team?

But unless there's a drastic change - and fast- will there be a London Skolars team next year at any level? Elements of the media are probably preparing 'RL has no future outside the North' articles now.

Re: Skolars and our reserves. : Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:49 am  

The Chronicler of Chiswic wrote:

But unless there's a drastic change - and fast- will there be a London Skolars team next year at any level? Elements of the media are probably preparing 'RL has no future outside the North' articles now.

I struggle to understand why you say this ? Every sports club finds it level and for years now Skolars have batted above their level. I am sure they will be around for years to come but why the obssession with them being in the Championship and getting flogged week in, week out ? Now they cannot draw on backpackers and randoms they are being found out, and how will this change in the short / medium term ? Like EVERY club in the region be they pro or amateur, until they get the juniors conveyor belt in full flow on the back of DO work they cannot be sustainanble.

My perception of the Skolars is they are caught between a rock and a hard place - they are not good enough for Championship, but too good for anything else on offer locally. The Skolars management do have a desire to be involved in the Championship and they pump as much money as they can into the club, but it is not enough money. They need more quality players from the north to supplement the youngsters if they are going to be the least bit competitive.

As for RL has no future ..... just look at the areas where rugby league is being played on a regular basis. Junior playing numbers are increasing year on year, a proper development model is in place with the best kids ending up at Quins RL and the rest filtering down to the right level. I referee the juniors and I can tell you there is some awesome talent out there.