: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:03 pm  

jbuzza wrote:

You clearly don't know anything about statistical analysis so I would avoid digging yourself into a deeper hole.

Agree its pointless doing comparisons with any of the 'one off' type events

The problem still exists that crowds are disappointing and although the last few have been 4000 ish, two of the three were against the top 2 which should always be a draw for floating fans

Home matchers against Bradford and Salford will show whether 4000 is sustainable. I have my doubts as its back in the soccer season but time will tell

Lets hope their is some decent marketing to support these games which a re very key in terms of the play offs

Re: Going backwards : Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:42 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

How many did we (saints) take down? Was it our usual size of crowd or did we take fewer and, in fact, Quins have more than usual turn up?

Probably about usual, but certainly not as many as for the 8,000 total attendance for the first match as Harlequins, which included easily the biggest visiting contingent for any SL match I've seen in London.

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:34 pm  

Chris Brown wrote:

Agree its pointless doing comparisons with any of the 'one off' type events

The problem still exists that crowds are disappointing and although the last few have been 4000 ish, two of the three were against the top 2 which should always be a draw for floating fans

Home matchers against Bradford and Salford will show whether 4000 is sustainable. I have my doubts as its back in the soccer season but time will tell

Lets hope their is some decent marketing to support these games which a re very key in terms of the play offs

Why is it one off?

The saints game happens every year and they are one of the glamout teams that everyone turns out to see. 4 years ago 8k turned up to watch them, it would be interesting to see what the attendences were for the other years.

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:52 pm  

Craig_UK wrote:

Why is it one off?

The saints game happens every year and they are one of the glamout teams that everyone turns out to see. 4 years ago 8k turned up to watch them, it would be interesting to see what the attendences were for the other years.

Because it was the first game as Quins, first at the Stoop for some years

I guess that makes it unique and a one off

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:10 pm  

Prince of Denmark wrote:

We've had two mascots for as long as I can remember, and when we played at The Valley they used to ride up and down the touchline on mini-scooters firing water pistols into the crowd, which they no longer do, so we've actually gone backwards in this respect. No wonder we can't pull bigger crowds!

I agree with you that the latest incarnations of Buck and Dusty are neither as active or inspiring as some of their predecessors.

Who on the administrative side at the club might be interested in this fan-based feedback, do you think, and how might we convey this feedback (assuming others agree with it)?

Dare I mention also that we used to have the definitive leading cheerleader squad in the Super League (in the shape of the Cow Girls and then the Harlequin Hearts), or is that an observation too far?

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:30 pm  

Prince of Denmark wrote:

We've had two mascots for as long as I can remember, and when we played at The Valley they used to ride up and down the touchline on mini-scooters firing water pistols into the crowd, which they no longer do, so we've actually gone backwards in this respect. No wonder we can't pull bigger crowds!

My first season supporting the club was the last one at The Stoop first time round and only Buck existed back then.

I agree, I think the new Buck isn't anywhere near as good as the old one

That's because we had the "wonderful" Mad Max

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:33 pm  

Probably about usual, but certainly not as many as for the 8,000 total attendance for the first match as Harlequins, which included easily the biggest visiting contingent for any SL match I've seen in London.

Think Castleford may have brought more (or does time make things seem bigger and better) when we were at Brentford and they had the Jungle Tour. Does anyone remember that game or the numbers Castleford brought? Think they paid £5 which included entry and coach fare and the rest was paid by their club sponsors.

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:35 pm  

Briali1 wrote:

Think Castleford may have brought more (or does time make things seem bigger and better) when we were at Brentford and they had the Jungle Tour. Does anyone remember that game or the numbers Castleford brought? Think they paid £5 which included entry and coach fare and the rest was paid by their club sponsors.

It was at The Valley was it not? And they took the whole of 1 stand? I think it was 5k or something.

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:39 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

I agree, I think the new Buck isn't anywhere near as good as the old one

I was being totally flippant. I wasn't expecting people to take me seriously and start agreeing with me!

My favourite Buck & Dusty moment was at Griffin Park when Corey Simms (now of london Skolars) performed on the pitch in front of the main stand with his rap band at half time and Buck & Dusty got in amongst them and joined in with their dance moves. It was a bit like Jarvis Cocker going onstage with Michael Jackson!

It's a shame they didn't do something similar with the "unstoppable" Elvis impersonator against Saints last season.

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:50 pm  

Prince of Denmark wrote:

I was being totally flippant. I wasn't expecting people to take me seriously and start agreeing with me!

Ah, I do apologise for taking you seriously

My impression is that our latest Buck and Dusty could contribute more on match days.

I wonder if they know what good looks like - and, if not, who might be able to rekindle the magic of Buck and Dustys past?