: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:03 am  

The poster based 10000 miles away is the expert on the team as usual then. Any post you make is based on assumptions and fantasy seeing as you have no idea what is going on in TW2.

: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:17 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Criticism him all you like.

Helps if you know what you're on about though.

The Job title "Head Coach" should point you in the direction of where the buck stops

FWIW, I am well aware that Bill Peden holds the job title of strength and conditioning coach, I also know that he answers to the Head Coach and as Brian seems to very adept at wearing his heart on his sleeve, I am of the opinion (which differs to yours...it's allowed) that after beating Bradford 2 weeks ago, a full contact session with a few walking wounded wasn't the way to go. Can't remember Gafa missing that many tackles in a season, never mind a game, so could it be that he's tackled himself silly on Thursday? I don't know. But I know something wasn't right!

: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:03 am  

gutterfax wrote:

The Job title "Head Coach" should point you in the direction of where the buck stops

FWIW, I am well aware that Bill Peden holds the job title of strength and conditioning coach, I also know that he answers to the Head Coach and as Brian seems to very adept at wearing his heart on his sleeve, I am of the opinion (which differs to yours...it's allowed) that after beating Bradford 2 weeks ago, a full contact session with a few walking wounded wasn't the way to go. Can't remember Gafa missing that many tackles in a season, never mind a game, so could it be that he's tackled himself silly on Thursday? I don't know. But I know something wasn't right!

What opinion did I offer of the bradford game or the training regime itself? NONE.

You can have and offer as many opinions as you like.

The head coach is not the fitness coach as you called him. And your comment that other coaches instruct their teams not to make mistakes is a laughable comment to be honest. As a result you showed a lack of knowledge on how things happen off the pitch re coaching and conditioning in your post.

: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:14 am  

Dave Lister wrote:

The poster based 10000 miles away is the expert on the team as usual then. Any post you make is based on assumptions and fantasy seeing as you have no idea what is going on in TW2.

I'm hardly an expert on things at Quins, how can I be? I do work on the coaching staff in Aussie RL and know how clubs work. Things in general are the same as in the UK. That's a presumption based on people I know who have both played and worked in the UK, not a fantasy.

However, here is a genuine offer. If you (and/or Gutterfax) ever come over here I'd be more than happy to spend time with yourselves showing you round some training sessions and take you behind the scenes of a club and at games.



I don't tend to label people as you do if they do or don't agree with me.

: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:27 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

What opinion did I offer of the bradford game or the training regime itself? NONE.

You can have and offer as many opinions as you like.

The head coach is not the fitness coach as you called him. And your comment that other coaches instruct their teams not to make mistakes is a laughable comment to be honest. As a result you showed a lack of knowledge on how things happen off the pitch re coaching and conditioning in your post.

I offered an opinion that as Head Coach, Brian McDermott lacked ability in certain areas, but not in fitness. The way I said it was incorrectly worded (maybe), but it doesn't change the fact that IF it was his decision to have a full contact session when we had only just started to get players off the treatment table, I believe it was a mistake.
Arguments could also be made that out lack of defence and a lack of attacking ideas can be put down to Latham Tawhai or Rob Powell, but as I pointed out, the buck stops with the HEAD COACH!
I have never pretended to be an officiado of League and have kept most of my posts directed at the business side of the club, but felt that IMO the team looked bereft of ideas on Saturday.
On your offer to me and Listy...I will soon be residing next door to you in New Zealand (well...4hrs away) and am sure I will be able to convince the Missus to attend a few games across the pond.

: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:33 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

If you (and/or Gutterfax) ever come over here I'd be more than happy to spend time with yourselves showing you round some training sessions and take you behind the scenes of a club and at games.



I don't tend to label people as you do if they do or don't agree with me.

I was only messing, and thanks for the offer

: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:38 am  

gutterfax wrote:

On your offer to me and Listy...I will soon be residing next door to you in New Zealand (well...4hrs away) and am sure I will be able to convince the Missus to attend a few games across the pond.

I know. You're more than welcome. You can bore me about marketing and I can bore you aboutt training.

3hr 40 from Auckland. 2 hrs 30 to Auckland. Figure that out???


As an aside. Souths did full contact training (in protective suits) on Friday evening the day before their game last weekend.

: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:39 am  

Dave Lister wrote:

I was only messing, and thanks for the offer

bastård (in a clique)

: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:25 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Can't remember Gafa missing that many tackles in a season, never mind a game, so could it be that he's tackled himself silly on Thursday? I don't know. But I know something wasn't right!

Dire performances like the one last Saturday have in the past coincided with several of the squad being informed they will not be around next season. Anyone know when decisions were / will be taken on the players out of contract at the end of the season ?

: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:14 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

I'm hardly an expert on things at Quins, how can I be? I do work on the coaching staff in Aussie RL and know how clubs work. Things in general are the same as in the UK. That's a presumption based on people I know who have both played and worked in the UK, not a fantasy.

However, here is a genuine offer. If you (and/or Gutterfax) ever come over here I'd be more than happy to spend time with yourselves showing you round some training sessions and take you behind the scenes of a club and at games.



I don't tend to label people as you do if they do or don't agree with me.

So now we know why the Bears run out of steam after 60 mins!!