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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:06 pm  
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I don't see why 'A strong background in sport' is needed, it's not like they'll be playing.


With our luck recently with injuries do not count your chickens.
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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:24 pm  
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I applied to a commercial post being sought by Sporting Appointments about a year ago, for which I had all the relevant "job experience" they were asking for, but was told straight off that they dont put forward candidates to employers without relevant industry (i.e. sports) experience.

Like you say, they should be seeking candidates from outside the industry who can bring something new to the party.


I once worked in a sports council briefly (I was on my way out of the civil service and fancied a quick sojourn somewhere very different first). I was imediately aware that I had entered a very small, closed world. Nearly everybody in the sports councils, or indeed in the governing bodies I met, had started as a development officer, or national squad member of their particular sport. Then they moved up their sport's ladder, before jumping on what was effectively a merry-go-round of different sports at club and governing body level, where they just swapped places occasionally. For many of them, their only qualification for any job, whether it was marketing, youth development, high performance, facilities or whatever, was that they used to be handy with a bat or a ball or fairly fast. There were some people who were clearly just hobbyists - the sort of people you find on the committee of any amateur RL club, who were in full-time jobs running entire sports or clubs with multi-million pound budgets. It was astonishing to see.

I'm not saying that all these people were deadbeats, and that you can't possibly be a decent marketeer or chief exec if you only ever worked in sports admin, but it seemed a very shallow pool to be fishing in. Nevertheless, we do have to accept that most sports organisations have very limited budgets, and so they're always going to rely on trying to find the diamond who can do a good job and is willing to do so for not very much, rather than being able to shell out for the top professional with experience elsewhere.

Personally, I've always thought that something like marketing should be entirely outsourced to a marketing company who get paid by results. Give them a budget to work with, and they get a proportion of the gate fee for each fan over last year's average. That's focus their minds a bit.
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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:33 pm  
I know of a candidate who has a RL background, knows the London RL scene and SW London and has management experience and controls a big budget, a good media player with the right connections. He may be looking for a new job soon -

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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:40 pm  
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I know of a candidate who has a RL background, knows the London RL scene and SW London and has management experience and controls a big budget, a good media player with the right connections. He may be looking for a new job soon -

VINCE CABLE !


:lol: We wouldn't get on Sky much though.
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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:49 pm  
Vince Cable's also the bloke who came to national prominence by being the first politician to say that the country had no money and was going down the pan. Sounds like a natural for us!
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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:32 am  
Bring back Nic Cartwright. Did a solid job during the transition from Broncs to Quins. He loved the club brought much needed energy and drive and went the extra mile.

Was one of our best, but I don't think there is much chance of Nick coming back.

Failing that I would bring Mark Evans in a part time capacity to start up some initiatives and get this ball rolling again, but continue to look for the right person and transition him/her into the job!!!
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was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have


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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:43 am  
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Bring back Nic Cartwright. Did a solid job during the transition from Broncs to Quins. He loved the club brought much needed energy and drive and went the extra mile.

Was one of our best, but I don't think there is much chance of Nick coming back.

Failing that I would bring Mark Evans in a part time capacity to start up some initiatives and get this ball rolling again, but continue to look for the right person and transition him/her into the job!!!

Nick Cartwright is in the US of A I believe.....Nick Evans is out of our league...even part time.
Biggest mistake we ever made was employing PBlanchard......you never get a second chance to make a first impression and as it is, in 5 years we have had 2 CEO's, a drop in fans and a bottom half team.....the Union won't be impressed (apart from the cheques they get from DH :roll: )
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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:33 am  
Someone should sound out the Qatari royal family. They seem to want a finger in all the pies and are loaded.
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dally messenger wrote:
was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have


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You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.

Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:53 pm  
gutterfax wrote:
again.
http://www.sportingappointments.co.uk/jobdetails.php?id=1484

It took over 12 months to "find" Blanchard and even then, he was only appointed as GM not Chief Executive. This would point to any number of possibilities, such as DH wanting a Yes man....a lack of quality applications or just nobody prepeared to do the amount of work required....
Point is, does the club need a CEO? Last time, the position was advertised with a 75k base + benefits....would this money be better spent "elsewhere"?

John Wells anyone?


So...here we are 38 months later and so far up the brown creek without a paddle as even the most pessimistic amongst us would have dared to guess. MacKay is leaving us for pastures new and DH, should he deem one necessary, will be on the look-out for a new CEO.

WILL HE MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN????
gutterfax wrote:
again.
http://www.sportingappointments.co.uk/jobdetails.php?id=1484

It took over 12 months to "find" Blanchard and even then, he was only appointed as GM not Chief Executive. This would point to any number of possibilities, such as DH wanting a Yes man....a lack of quality applications or just nobody prepeared to do the amount of work required....
Point is, does the club need a CEO? Last time, the position was advertised with a 75k base + benefits....would this money be better spent "elsewhere"?

John Wells anyone?


So...here we are 38 months later and so far up the brown creek without a paddle as even the most pessimistic amongst us would have dared to guess. MacKay is leaving us for pastures new and DH, should he deem one necessary, will be on the look-out for a new CEO.

WILL HE MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN????
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Re: Will David Hughes make the same mistakes : Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:05 am  
gutterfax wrote:
Nick Cartwright is in the US of A I believe.



He's in Oman, as commercial director of their Football Association.
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