Re: letter to the players : Mon May 20, 2013 5:38 pm  

I understand the frustration but I too think the op's comments are way over the top (maybe i've seen so many shallackings that I've become a bit immune to it).

It puzzles me to hear any of our fans saying that they're not fans of Growler. Yes, he looks a miserable, hard barsteward but the guy has given 120 % in every game he has played for us (and rarely misses a game even though the bloke can barely walk after a game (not to mention the late challenges and general roughing up he gets in every game).

If we had a team full of CG's, I'd be very happy.

Re: letter to the players : Mon May 20, 2013 6:11 pm  

Dan Stains woz God wrote:

I understand the frustration but I too think the op's comments are way over the top (maybe i've seen so many shallackings that I've become a bit immune to it).

It puzzles me to hear any of our fans saying that they're not fans of Growler. Yes, he looks a miserable, hard barsteward but the guy has given 120 % in every game he has played for us (and rarely misses a game even though the bloke can barely walk after a game (not to mention the late challenges and general roughing up he gets in every game).

If we had a team full of CG's, I'd be very happy.

Spot on.

Re: letter to the players : Mon May 20, 2013 6:39 pm  

Well over the top. The OP was obviously not at Salford last year which for me was the depths. Wigan are a class act and Slippery Sam is something else. Yes it frustrates me that we can't do the basics well and it was chalk and cheese from the week before.

Re: letter to the players : Mon May 20, 2013 6:51 pm  

Agree Paddock, I've barely been able to sleep since the Salford debacle last year

How lucky that the hotel bar was open until the wee hours

Re: letter to the players : Mon May 20, 2013 8:14 pm  

I agree Mr Gower has given a big effort. He doesn't get any protection from the ref...more worryingly he doesn't get any protection from his team mates. London don't have an enforcer....look at what happens to anyone having a pop at the more vulnerable Leeds or Warrington players....anyone in his position would look p@ssed off all the time

Re: letter to the players : Mon May 20, 2013 8:23 pm  

So how bad does it have to get for some of you?
Saturday was appalling ! I didn't expect us to win, I didn't expect us to even go close with first choice players missing but I expected the players to show some pride and try! Even St Craig seemed to stop giving a monkeys after about 20 mins, lead by example eh skip?

For sure Wigan, and Tomkins in particular were on fire - he seems to have gained another yard of pace if it were possible ! But our players had no fire, no passion and no spine - it could have been much worse if Wigan hadnt eased off after 50 points. But hey ho, criticism seems to be off limits unless you went to Salford - and no I didn't but a mate did so I got all the grisly details!

Re: letter to the players : Mon May 20, 2013 9:19 pm  

Rob, you were at the game I presume. I saw Gower trying to get the team going after all the first four scores (had binos with me) . He got no response. I could feel his frustration. In the face of no response should he have carried on, or should someone on the team have made an effort?

Re: letter to the players : Mon May 20, 2013 9:56 pm  

Well I can understand his frustration but would some of our previous skippers have given up with an hour to go?

Just a thought, and I think he's been outstanding on other occasions, if he can't get a response out of them maybe someone else should captain the team?

Re: letter to the players : Tue May 21, 2013 11:10 am  

''I am not a fan of Craig Gower but he is the exception to the rule as he tries to get the game going but with a team of lazy misfits he has a hard job and that is probably why he looks angry all the time''

Please show me where I said Craig Gower doesn't try. I said I wasn't a fan of his I never said he was useless, uncommitted or anything along those lines I acknowledged that he at least put in effort. I think he is a great player I am just not a fan of his persona and I shouldn't think that would bother him for one second. I would think he is more worried about what he has around him on the pitch

As for being over the top - each to their own - I happen to think Saturday was a disgraceful performance, I wasn't on my own as the people standing discussing it in front of me on the stairway (long term fans of 20+ years each) all said they were a shambles with no pride, passion or commitment and all of them were in a discussion of how the team should not be paid a salary for that performance. I know shouldn't listen to other peoples conversation but I it was hard not to with how angry they were.

This is a forum so each and every one is allowed their opinion and that is fine with me we may disagree on performances and situations in the club but at least we all care otherwise we wouldn't be so vocal and emotional

Re: letter to the players : Tue May 21, 2013 2:47 pm  

Many of us on this forum have paid the blame on poor form/results etc on several things in the past.
Lets blame the coach was one theme, TR had apparently run his course so he went
Brian Mac was a rubbish coach! err he seems to be doing ok now
Rob Powell, first few games of his tenure he was a god and got coach of the month start of his first season!