Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:04 am  

Rob from Erith wrote:

Oh here we go, someone has a different opinion so out comes the headbanger icon!

What opinion is that?

Harlequins RFC were approached by us....they took us on board as tenants with a view to exploring a partnership if it was mutually beneficial. The lack of anything tangible in the way of business planning and dynamics from the RL club made their decision to not pursue the partnership an easy one. They returned to the Premiership in 2007 and have grown their crowds to 14,800 sell outs......their tenants have stumbled from farce to fiasco and back again.

We dicked them around last year...we were leaving, then we weren't...then we were again and finally we said we stay, but only for one more year.

If we'd kept the option for 3 more years on the table, they wouldn't have "dicked us around". If we had a CEO who had a decent business head on his shoulders, then we would have been compensated for the forced game moves..

As for confusion as to what game we played....if you swallow that bollox, then I fear for your sanity.

I fail to see how the landlord is to blame for the state the club find themselves in.

Our opinions differ dramatically here, but I am keen.....genuinely keen..... to hear your take on the above scenario and where I have gone wrong in your opinion?

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:05 am  

BroncOnIon wrote:

Second thoughts - no comment.

If I am so wrong, then feel free to point out where. I have admitted mistakes in the past and will do so again if need be.

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:24 am  

gutterfax wrote:

What opinion is that?

Harlequins RFC were approached by us....they took us on board as tenants with a view to exploring a partnership if it was mutually beneficial. The lack of anything tangible in the way of business planning and dynamics from the RL club made their decision to not pursue the partnership an easy one. They returned to the Premiership in 2007 and have grown their crowds to 14,800 sell outs......their tenants have stumbled from farce to fiasco and back again.

We dicked them around last year...we were leaving, then we weren't...then we were again and finally we said we stay, but only for one more year.

If we'd kept the option for 3 more years on the table, they wouldn't have "dicked us around". If we had a CEO who had a decent business head on his shoulders, then we would have been compensated for the forced game moves..

As for confusion as to what game we played....if you swallow that bollox, then I fear for your sanity.

I fail to see how the landlord is to blame for the state the club find themselves in.





Our opinions differ dramatically here, but I am keen.....genuinely keen..... to hear your take on the above scenario and where I have gone wrong in your opinion?

The opinion that we haven't been dicked about this season!

I know I'm probably going to regret this but it's a miserable day here, I've got soaked cycling into work (waterproof jacket my ar5e!) and I've got a few minutes before getting stuck into work - I think maybe I've just got an aversion to that headbanger icon!

Although it wasn't mentioned in my post just for a bit of background I know you were one of the many who bought into it lock, stock and multi - pastel duvet cover, but I never thought the Harlequins partnership / merger/ takeover / feel free to put in the term of your choosing would work, I never liked the idea and I make no apologies for feeling that way and never have done. If I'm wrong or insane to think that way then I'm OK with that. However I continued to support the club during this time, probably attending more matches than during the years at Brentford or Charlton and wondered if I'd be proved wrong - but I wasn't was I ? By the time the main movers behind the idea ( Evans, Lenagan, Cartwright ,? any one I've left out) had all gone it was surely just a matter of the project being on borrowed time? And before you start I take no twisted pleasure whatsoever from this!

Apart from an initial spike in attendances the club as Harlequins went the same way as it has always done, largely because of the Kevin Costner approach - whcih we've agreed upon in the past. The relaunch offered one final chance to start again, I know how many chances does one club need eh? But after the usual initial stuff at Wembley for the double header etc... well you know how the rest of it goes..... and who should shoulder the blame!

But getting back to the point about being dicked about, we did it to them first so it's OK for them to do it back to us? That's a bit infant playground isn't it? We might only be the tenants now, although that's what we'd been effectively for the last few seasons pre the rebrand but we pay our rentdon't we - shouldn't we get something for that ?

I'm having trouble recalling a situation, where a pro sports team has had to rearrange games at such short notice as we have this year? And I don't just mean different KO times or days which we've had to do because of fixture clashes, gigs at the big stadium etc..or because the football club landlords are relaying / reseeding the pitch, I mean having to find a new venue at virtually no notice whatsoever due to the pitch being unplayable? Sure we could have postponed the games but with no clear idea of how long it was going to take to sort the pitch out, a decision was made to try and fulfil the fixtures on the scheduled dates. Credit to Esher and Wycombe for accomodating us under these circumstances but I can't think of a time in professional sport when this has happened ! If what's happened to us is not the defintion of being dicked about then I think I need a new dictionary!

As for my sanity, well the thought of not having a club to support does bring on bouts of acute depression, especially with the alternative being to go back to watching West Ham under Sam Allardyce's management- but that said the aftermath of watching them lately does much the same. Thanks for your concern anyway, I'm just taking the medication as prescribed and dealing with things one day at a time!

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:41 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

If I am so wrong, then feel free to point out where. I have admitted mistakes in the past and will do so again if need be.

Fair enough. My initial post, though intended jokingly, was somewhat personal so I thought better of it.

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:06 pm  

One could argue it was in Gus's interests for us to be "dicked around" by Quins this season. It removed some of the resistance to a move.

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:58 pm  

"Dick Around" is a great track by Sparks off the Hello Young Lovers album of 2006, great tune, Balls album of 2000, also apt and good, though watching Orient and Broncos, always gives me a permanent state of anesthesia and the requirement of plenty of social juice

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:00 pm  

"Dick Around" is a great track by Sparks off the Hello Young Lovers album of 2006, great tune, Balls album of 2000, also apt and good, though watching Orient and Broncos, always gives me a permanent state of anesthesia and the requirement of plenty of social juice

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:05 pm  

"Dick Around" is a great track by Sparks off the Hello Young Lovers album of 2006, great tune, Balls album of 2000, also apt and good, though watching Orient and Broncos, always gives me a permanent state of anesthesia and the requirement of plenty of social juice

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:54 pm  

"Dick Around" is a great track by Sparks off the Hello Young Lovers album of 2006, great tune, Balls album of 2000, also apt and good, though watching Orient and Broncos, always gives me a permanent state of anesthesia and the requirement of plenty of social juice

Re: One Final Fixture Clash. : Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:55 pm  

Orientwestsider wrote:

"Dick Around" is a great track by Sparks off the Hello Young Lovers album of 2006, great tune, Balls album of 2000, also apt and good, though watching Orient and Broncos, always gives me a permanent state of anesthesia and the requirement of plenty of social juice

You sure about that?

You sure about that?

You sure about that?

EDIT: You sure about that?

Goodnight.