Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:33 pm  

Rascal Bongo Stork wrote:

you're right, a lot of young players will be lost. I'd expect the RFL to take over and have a regional academy like they have in other areas.

I'm not sure they are even interested in this.

The fact that they shut down their development and media office in London during the week of the Leeds game does not bode well.

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:02 pm  

He RFL shut an office or the Broncos ?

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:04 pm  

The RFL.

The loss of development officers is probably more serious to the long term future of RL down here than our immediate future tbh. To be fair I believe the decision was driven by a substantial loss of central funding to the RFL (due to a decline in playing numbers meaning previous participation targets were missed) rather than a loss of interest.

I'm hearing it is basically down to a ground now. A potential deal has been brokered, largely thanks to the RFL who are keen for us to carry on. We just need to come up with a ground acceptable, and that doesn't necessarily mean up to SL standard, and a method of funding said ground. Which basically means one David is happy to pay for and the RFL think is good enough. I'm hearing Gillingham is dead in the water - a Broncos decision decision credit to them for that.

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:08 pm  

In which case I'd hope that The Hive is the option. Looks decent and with some vaguely well thought out marketing could be filled when the bigger clubs come to town. Hell, it shouldn't be hat had for the Broncos to fill it for most games !

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:15 pm  

Brian Berwick in an interview yesterday, sent out a mixed message about our future, what a great lot of good he has done since joining the RFL, he makes a great partner with Nigel!

The capacity of Hull KR's ground is only 8,500 and after how many years existence.

Dr Marwan Koukash was seriously criticised about his comments about spending with Salford, Featherstone Rovers majority shareholder Feisal Nahaboo, should be seriously rapped for his comments in the week of the Tetley's Challenge Cup Final, but doubt the RFL & Woods would have the guts!

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:36 pm  

yeah, the loss of development officers was a massive blow and one that perhaps hasnt truly been felt yet.Add the Broncos demise to the mix and it's a sad situation.
As for the RFL possibly stepping in to do the Academy - for what it's worth I asked Mr Rimmer that very question face to face a few weeks ago (three?) and he said that it would be "criminally insane" to let the good work that's gone on in London go down the drain. Obviously he may have just been fobbing me off but that's what he said.
As for the ground - it's Barnet or bust surely? And I would suspect the reason nothing has been said is that the Broncos have no idea if they will be allowed to play there. If they arent then I cant see any other options. As it is I think we have to accept Championship RL as the best case scenario for next season - no way they can put a team out next season good enough for the SL. We're diabolical this season, next....I shudder to think.

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:45 pm  

jaybs wrote: Brian Berwick in an interview yesterday, sent out a mixed message about our future, what a great lot of good he has done since joining the RFL, he makes a great partner with Nigel! The capacity of Hull KR's ground is only 8,500 and after how many years existence. Dr Marwan Koukash was seriously criticised about his comments about spending with Salford, Featherstone Rovers majority shareholder Feisal Nahaboo, should be seriously rapped for his comments in the week of the Tetley's Challenge Cup Final, but doubt the RFL & Woods would have the guts! It may have been when the ground opened in 1989 but as of 2011 it was 10000 and will increase when the new North Stand opens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craven_Park,_Hull http://www.worldstadia.com/stadium/engl ... m/1137.php http://www.hullkr.co.uk/club-community/ ... nd-updates

jaybs wrote: Brian Berwick in an interview yesterday, sent out a mixed message about our future, what a great lot of good he has done since joining the RFL, he makes a great partner with Nigel! The capacity of Hull KR's ground is only 8,500 and after how many years existence. Dr Marwan Koukash was seriously criticised about his comments about spending with Salford, Featherstone Rovers majority shareholder Feisal Nahaboo, should be seriously rapped for his comments in the week of the Tetley's Challenge Cup Final, but doubt the RFL & Woods would have the guts! It may have been when the ground opened in 1989 but as of 2011 it was 10000 and will increase when the new North Stand opens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craven_Park,_Hull http://www.worldstadia.com/stadium/engl ... m/1137.php http://www.hullkr.co.uk/club-community/ ... nd-updates

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:50 pm  

So a precedence for a sub 10,000 stadium as long as potential to expand over time.

Unlikely but a best case scenario would be in a position to spend to the cap, signings have already been made but kept secret, the Hive is already a done deal just being kept secret and that new investors are to be announced.

Even better we are stronger on the field and avoid at least the bottom two.

One can but dream.

And one for those planning 2015 at Red Hall that two of the best supported teams in the league have a mare of a season and finish in the bottom two.

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:24 pm  

Southern Reiver wrote:

And one for those planning 2015 at Red Hall that two of the best supported teams in the league have a mare of a season and finish in the bottom two.

Now that would be as funny as f**k

Should be interesting next year to see the clubs spending to the cap to stay up with regards to:
1. Someone breaking the cap and having points docked immediately
2, The financial backlash and ramifications in 2015 of overspending in 2014.


As for London...The Hive, with a 10 year lease, either as a SL or CH club and a clear and documented plan as to where they want to see progress and how quickly.

Re: Best Case Scenario : Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:23 pm  

Not sure when the capacity increased to 10000 but IIRC was before 2010, only used 2011 as that's quoted in the first 2 links.
Initial ground capacity for 1989/90 season at New Craven Park was left low as club was in (then) 2nd division & land left to settle at southern end of ground rather than spend on what club saw as unneeded capacity. (Was told by HKR director that end of ground could have been developed to terracing ready for ground opening but to leave earth to 'settle' meant they saved a large sum & they didn't expect huge crowds apart from the opening game - remember how many some clubs brought to Chiswick in that season ?)