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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Wed May 01, 2019 12:14 pm  
MonkeyLover wrote:
Are you sure I didn't say 'discussing' should there be a need to shift a big game?


Yep. That's not how you phrased it at all.
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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Wed May 01, 2019 12:17 pm  
nadera78 wrote:
Yep. That's not how you phrased it at all.


Ah well, what do I know. It's now safe to presume Wardy has asked the club for money for 12 new players and each time he was told to get back in his office and carrying on trying to make wine out of water for the bar downstairs.

Crack on lads, hopefully Hughesy will walk in the next few weeks and then Danny can sign anyone he likes :D
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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Wed May 01, 2019 12:56 pm  
MonkeyLover you appear to a man in the know, as you can so confidently refute observations on this forum.

So I ask you, did Danny and David truly believe that the Championship squad, less a few seasoned heads, plus 'SL experienced players' Mason and Richards, an NRL fringe fringe player and a man on the outer at St Helens, a half back who had no where else to go, and the one shining star Abdull, would have enough to keep us up ? Come on, there is no way on earth that can be the case.

The pack is small, the bigger units are just plodders and lays no platform for anything. The academy promotions with the exception of Walker are currently no where near good enough. Two of them we released and resigned !!! I could go on but its too depressing
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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Wed May 01, 2019 1:13 pm  
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MonkeyLover you appear to a man in the know, as you can so confidently refute observations on this forum.

So I ask you, did Danny and David truly believe that the Championship squad, less a few seasoned heads, plus 'SL experienced players' Mason and Richards, an NRL fringe fringe player and a man on the outer at St Helens, a half back who had no where else to go, and the one shining star Abdull, would have enough to keep us up ? Come on, there is no way on earth that can be the case.

The pack is small, the bigger units are just plodders and lays no platform for anything. The academy promotions with the exception of Walker are currently no where near good enough. Two of them we released and resigned !!! I could go on but its too depressing


I know nothing I'm afraid, you're best off asking Honkytonks two mates, they seem to have it all figured out.
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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Wed May 01, 2019 2:59 pm  
Dont bring me into this mate, ive said my piece, take it as you will, really makes no odds to me.
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Wed May 01, 2019 8:41 pm  
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I can only think of two things, firstly, as jbuzza said on another thread, that he was anticipating one team imploding financially. Before the start of the season there was a lot of talk of Salford's financial position & maybe Toronto or Widnes being tapped up to replace them in SL. Secondly, with funds apparently limited he has decided not to improve the team, wait until the last 6-10 games to see if we were all but relegated anyway then keep his money in his pocket. Alternatively, if we were in with a shout of staying up, then bring in a few that might just make a difference. With 10 games to go it's now or never.

There is no plan. There is never a plan....

Hughes has eased his conscience by getting us back up after his dummy spit of 2013 sent us down, but he is no longer prepared to bankroll the side, but instead just get warm fuzzy feeling when watching HIS side.
When we go down, he will gradually remove any funding and we will become a mid table 2nd tier team relying on the aging and shrinking fan base and our own academy products.

As other posters are often heard to remark, the mistakes of the past cannot be changed, but they should never be forgotten or excused just because he bankrolls us.......he has gone on record as saying his skillset doesn't include the attributes conducive to running a club, but has simply employed people who told him what he wanted to hear.........
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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Wed May 01, 2019 10:54 pm  
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I know nothing I'm afraid, you're best off asking Honkytonks two mates, they seem to have it all figured out.


Well if you spend time on forums doing the whole ITK thing then you can't really complain when people pull you up on stuff you've said.
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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 am  
nadera78 wrote:
Well if you spend time on forums doing the whole ITK thing then you can't really complain when people pull you up on stuff you've said.


Really sorry. You're all right, Hughesy is a ****.

Hopefully he walks at the end of the season and then someone can come in and sign NRL players to ensure the club is challenging at the other end of the table. That is the wining formula, just ask Gary Hetherington. Forget about Academy products and living within your means.
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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Thu May 02, 2019 10:49 am  
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Really sorry. You're all right, Hughesy is a ****.

Hopefully he walks at the end of the season and then someone can come in and sign NRL players to ensure the club is challenging at the other end of the table. That is the wining formula, just ask Gary Hetherington. Forget about Academy products and living within your means.


Nice response, but it has nothing to do with the post you quoted.
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Re: The Enigma that is David Hughes : Thu May 02, 2019 11:27 am  
nadera78 wrote:
Nice response, but it has nothing to do with the post you quoted.

It has everything to do with the fact people are quick to criticise yet have no answer other than 'we need more investment' or 'we need to spend money on marketing' which are the exact same things being thrown at Robert Elstone and the RFL.

Let's not forget the fact it is a minority sport which is potless outside of Australia and 99% of the British population don't give a monkey's about.

Harping back to days when 5000 were watching Rugby League in London is like harping back to the days when there were a dozen pubs on a high street all full of men. Every club within the game is struggling to get people through the door, the difference with most of the clubs in British Rugby League is that they are in areas where the game is commonly known and played in schools and at community level so have half a chance that generations of a family will keep supporting.

People keep telling me David Argyle is a genius yet their ticket revenue is peanuts as most people there are on freebies. He has failed to get the side into Super League and it is far from certain they will go up this year whilst racking up more debts and ripping off more companies along the way. They have no business plan, Noble is about to jump ship and the players are once again getting fed up.

The Broncos have seen their attendances double if not triple this season with the vast majority paying to get in. For around 5 years the investment required has reduced and the clubs academy is getting stronger and stronger.

That may not seem like an improvement to some people or better than the Toronto business model however I know which club will still be around the day the wealthy owner passes the role onto someone.
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