Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:20 pm  

Bostwick wrote:

Whatever you think of The Hive, location not perfect, transport not perfect either. It suits our needs especially with the crowds we draw. With some stability and with the team we are building, we could actually go forward.
To my mind if the deal is on the table and financially it can be made to work, it is a deal that should be done.
Remember that Barnet FC are pledged to long term return the Barnet area, so we could even end up with our own stadium.
A pipe dream I know, but the on the roller coaster ride that following the broncos is, who knows what will happen.

Absolutely right - if it were down to me I'd have AK's right arm off him if it meant we got the stability of 10 years at what is an excellent ground for us. Looks as if there would be room to expand should it be needed - and a chance as a club to put down roots ( yeah I know there was the Stoop but that's in the past now isn't it ?) .
Knowing Broncos the deal will probably be thrown away in favour of our continued nomadic existence!

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:22 pm  

Perry wrote:

The rumour doing the rounds at the Hive is that AK was offering a 10 year deal to play there, but DH et al weren't interested.
It's a rumour, so I can't prove it and have no knowledge of the terms allegedly on offer. But given our history, I wouldn't bet against it being true.

I'd heard this, so I was surprised when the planning went in without catering for extending the pitch for rugby. It indicated to me that TK didn't feel the extra expense was worthwhile and so a long term deal with Broncos had probably gone cold.

Any return to Barnet is a very long way off \ if ever . The cards didn't fall our way unfortunately. Even if in 10-15 years something did happen the Hive would still be our training centre and home to London Bees and the development squad.

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:39 pm  

Aachen wrote: Stability is extremenly important to attract fans, however so is an indication of ambition. The hive is a very nice Championship ground and no more. Ten years commitment there would indicate there is either no SL ambition in that time or a hope that various planning consents to expand the ground would be approved. If a move happens, it will be a key indicator of London's aspirations - even if that is down to league 1. I think you underestimate what the Hive is turning into, in 5-10 years time it will in all probability have double it's current capacity. Next Wednesday a new North stand that is identical to the West Stand is recommended for approval. http://www.harrow.gov.uk/www2/documents ... ee.pdf?T=9 It's no secret that TK wants this all the way round and a remodelled East stand to get the capacity up to at least 10K. He has been saying it for years. http://www.onlybarnet.com/bfcsa/0910/ar ... view_2.htm When you've got a site that is going to open next month that has had around £11 million invested in it – that's how much will have gone into that site by the time it opens – the people in that area are going to have, on their doorstep, facilities that are going to be considered some of the best in the country. ....... I still want a 10,000 capacity stadium because if I have that, and it meets all the regulations, I can do what every other chairman does and just focus on the operation of the club and the football, rather than all this other nonsense. Once we start marching, we'll march fast - you'll see.

Aachen wrote: Stability is extremenly important to attract fans, however so is an indication of ambition. The hive is a very nice Championship ground and no more. Ten years commitment there would indicate there is either no SL ambition in that time or a hope that various planning consents to expand the ground would be approved. If a move happens, it will be a key indicator of London's aspirations - even if that is down to league 1. I think you underestimate what the Hive is turning into, in 5-10 years time it will in all probability have double it's current capacity. Next Wednesday a new North stand that is identical to the West Stand is recommended for approval. http://www.harrow.gov.uk/www2/documents ... ee.pdf?T=9 It's no secret that TK wants this all the way round and a remodelled East stand to get the capacity up to at least 10K. He has been saying it for years. http://www.onlybarnet.com/bfcsa/0910/ar ... view_2.htm When you've got a site that is going to open next month that has had around £11 million invested in it – that's how much will have gone into that site by the time it opens – the people in that area are going to have, on their doorstep, facilities that are going to be considered some of the best in the country. ....... I still want a 10,000 capacity stadium because if I have that, and it meets all the regulations, I can do what every other chairman does and just focus on the operation of the club and the football, rather than all this other nonsense. Once we start marching, we'll march fast - you'll see.

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:43 pm  

I like the Hive. We should stay put if there is an option to do so.

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:05 pm  

I think it will all boil down to money. Both in respect to what Barnet expect out of the deal, and for the Broncos, what their ambitions are and what they would cost.
I am sure that The Hive will become a stadium which would be acceptable for Super League and if we were to put down proper roots we could prosper there,
But it needs commitment and planning. It also needs to be marketed. We not too good at that.
Still time will tell.

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:16 pm  

Perry wrote:

The rumour doing the rounds at the Hive is that AK was offering a 10 year deal to play there.

meliferra wrote:

I'd heard this.

I'd be interested to know where and when you first heard that there were discussions going on about a long term deal at the Hive. I seem to remember a much lambasted poster of this manor discussing these negotiations back in 2014, but as he's no longer permitted to post in this "clique" I am sure people will instead take your "inside knowledge" rather than accept that the Keyboard 12k miles away was once again, bang on the money.

Anyway, I am not in the least surprised that it seems to have fallen through given the well documented negotiation skills of our owner......was he waiting for Blake to come in with the RFL cheque book again?

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:49 pm  

Jim Pooley wrote:

...I seem to remember a much lambasted poster of this manor discussing these negotiations back in 2014, but as he's no longer permitted to post in this "clique"...

There is no clique, but there was a personally abusive poster who resorted to thinly disguised expletives when he could no longer resolve the conflict between his enormous ego and limited vocabulary.

Jim Pooley wrote:

I am sure people will instead take your "inside knowledge" rather than accept that the Keyboard 12k miles away was once again, bang on the money....

I clearly identified that it was a rumour and never claimed to have inside knowledge. But like the aforementioned poster you seem quite happy to distort what people write on here for your own purposes.

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:26 pm  

Perry wrote:

There is no clique, but there was a personally abusive poster who resorted to thinly disguised expletives when he could no longer resolve the conflict between his enormous ego and limited vocabulary.

People that feel uncomfortable with what is being stated normally resort to accusing the deliverer of having a big ego, or even a hidden agenda. There was and I still believe is, a perfectly serviceable "ignore" function on this forum for those who prefer to live in a "cloistered" world, protected from images of Mackay on his knees in front of Hughes, which I believe was something that the poster in question claimed was a possibility and you reacted to with overzealous righteous indignation.

Perry wrote:

I clearly identified that it was a rumour and never claimed to have inside knowledge.

As you seem to be one of 2 contributors in this thread and elsewhere on the internet in regards to the Broncos, the other being an aficionado on all things, AK/Hive/Barnet and given you started it, you either got the information from a fortune cookie, or from your newly re-engaged club (See JG thread).

Perry wrote:

But like the aforementioned poster you seem quite happy to distort what people write on here for your own purposes.

Ah....the "hidden agenda" as alluded to above.
Firstly, the rumour came from somewhere and as I've pointed out, you are one of 2 reporting it with the other being very much in the know at the Hive.

Nest, The only "agenda" I have is to see a stable RL club emerge from the farce that Hughes has created. Unlike the ever decreasing number of fans at games (there is a connection between lack of traffic on here and fans at games which some posters seem to struggle with), I will not shrug and say "he's all we've got". If he's seriously interested in getting the club on a stable footing, then he needs to employ someone qualified for the role (Paul Brown?) as GM/CEO. He needs to make it clear the timelines involved before his exit and the funds available and then, most importantly, he needs to step back and let the appointed person get on with it.
Oh...he also has to have assistance from the RFL and other RL clubs with regard to the interview and appointment of the person described above. Salford are learning for themselves, it's one thing having a passionate owner with loads of cash, but a whole different ball game when said owner hasn't a clue what they are doing.

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:49 pm  

Drone

Re: Home Next Year : Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:32 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

Drone

Whilst the Cranewife may believe his/her stalking of my posts is annoying, I simply take their stalking as a compliment and proof of my theory that your average RL Fan poster on here is just glad that 'Uncle David' is propping the carcass of the club up for another season, ignoring the truth that RL in the Capital has been set back 20+ years by the errors made by the man.
What's your excuse for resorting to this inane stalkers tactics.....or did you forget to switch user ID's?