: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:06 am  

retirethename wrote:

Yes we know it needs to improve, now let the club get on with it.

get on with what
Seriously, if this season (or even the last 2 months) is anything to go by, then the club have no clear and defined plan. To put up that rasing attendances is PB's main aim on the website points to the club being aware of the problem. It's just that a drop in average attendances this year at the half way stage of the season isn't really a good start is it?
I fully appreciate that I bang on and on and on and on about this, but let's face it, the development of future players and the community work being done, whilst great, won't pay the bills. Bums on seats are what will make the club successful in the long run.......and as the players and coach have started mentioning it, the time for empty promises is over.

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:08 am  

We're not going to get the social scene down just yet.
"hey guys do you want to sit in an empty stadium with no atmosphere, watching a game we dont know and players we've never heard about, at the same time as England are playing on telly.

We need bums on seats and need to get the locals involved.
I dont know if this has legs, but it would generate some coverage (free marketing) but has the club tried to get the other Richmond clubs on board, Richmond, Welsh, Hampton FC etc to offer a borough season ticket that grants you unreserved entry to all games all year?

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:28 am  

Darthchris wrote:

We're not going to get the social scene down just yet.
"hey guys do you want to sit in an empty stadium with no atmosphere, watching a game we dont know and players we've never heard about, at the same time as England are playing on telly.

We need bums on seats and need to get the locals involved.
I dont know if this has legs, but it would generate some coverage (free marketing) but has the club tried to get the other Richmond clubs on board, Richmond, Welsh, Hampton FC etc to offer a borough season ticket that grants you unreserved entry to all games all year?

Good idea plus London Scottish, Rosslyn Park and Ealing for the West London Rugby ticket!

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:01 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

40% is the figure we would need to achieve 1 point..

Perhaps the removal of the seats from the South Stand witnessed on Saturday is an attempt to meet the figure ?

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:18 pm  

some of you are harbingers of doom, no matter how many thousand attend a game at the stoop it is certainly better than not having a team to support. just think, those who attended the game wouldn't have watched a game of rugby league if their was no team in the capital, quins are as vital to our game as saints, leeds, w***n etc etc etc etc.

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:31 pm  

Fingerposts Finest wrote:

some of you are harbingers of doom, no matter how many thousand attend a game at the stoop it is certainly better than not having a team to support. just think, those who attended the game wouldn't have watched a game of rugby league if their was no team in the capital, quins are as vital to our game as saints, leeds, w***n etc etc etc etc.

i agree, the only problem i see was why it took so long to get a London club involved.
Eventually some midland clubs will get involved and link it all up and all these Flatcapper anti expansionist will eventually die out

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:33 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

sometimes i think you are deliberately obtuse.

compared to the rest of london it's not great.
compared to rest of the country it's great.

It's not on the tube network for a start.
It's in west London which i know for a fact is the most congested part of the capital (yes i have proof of that)

Brentford for instance you can catch a few buses from zone 1 to the old ground at Griffin park and the tube station was a short walk away unlike Twickenham with the exception of ONE route out of Hammersmith.
Yes there is the train link but not actually part of the TfL network therefore more expensive.

It (in regards of London) is probably the worst served area for public transport.
Compare that to if you played at QPR or still at Griffin park which is catered for the public transport user

The nearset tube station to Brentford (South Ealing) was a lot further away than the station at Twickenham, and it was a less pleasant walk along a busy road with a massive junction to negotiate if walking. On Sundays Brentford train station was served by one train per hour that departed a few minutes after the end of the match, meaning you'd just miss it unless you left early or were an Olympic 800 metres medallist.

Twickenham has trains into London every few minutes on every day (you're unlikely to wait more than ten minutes at any time) and they link up with the Underground network at Richmond. The ground itself is far better and it's easier to get to for many people, and you don't have to worry about waiting another hour or finding an alternative route if you just miss one train.

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:48 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

i agree, the only problem i see was why it took so long to get a London club involved.
Eventually some midland clubs will get involved and link it all up and all these Flatcapper anti expansionist will eventually die out

i think that the "flatcappers" are finally coming round to the idea of a team in the capitol, at least quins are on the up unlike some heartland clubs...

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:59 pm  

Prince of Denmark wrote:

The nearset tube station to Brentford (South Ealing) was a lot further away than the station at Twickenham, and it was a less pleasant walk along a busy road with a massive junction to negotiate if walking. On Sundays Brentford train station was served by one train per hour that departed a few minutes after the end of the match, meaning you'd just miss it unless you left early or were an Olympic 800 metres medallist.

Twickenham has trains into London every few minutes on every day (you're unlikely to wait more than ten minutes at any time) and they link up with the Underground network at Richmond. The ground itself is far better and it's easier to get to for many people, and you don't have to worry about waiting another hour or finding an alternative route if you just miss one train.

Forgive my poor punctuation on that and i was slighty unclear Twick St to the stoop is not far i wasn't comparing distance of SEailing and Twick St.
More the lack of buses from the busier parts of London to Twickers and the fact that Twickers Station isn't part of the TfL network therefore more expensive to travel.

Brentford for instance you can catch a few buses from zone 1 to the old ground at Griffin park and the tube station was a short walk away, unlike Twickenham with the exception of ONE route out of Hammersmith.

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:23 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

Forgive my poor punctuation on that and i was slighty unclear Twick St to the stoop is not far i wasn't comparing distance of SEailing and Twick St.
More the lack of buses from the busier parts of London to Twickers and the fact that Twickers Station isn't part of the TfL network therefore more expensive to travel.

Why would you want to get a bus from busier parts when the tube to Richmond or train to Twickers is fine?

Oh and Twickers is on the TFL network, you can buy thru routing from any tube staion, travelcards and passes work just fine too.