Re: Fans consultation : Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:41 pm  

Victor wrote: Certainly at Ealing the entire takings from the Bars and food go to Trailfinders. The manner of that deal is why post match entertainment was never going to happen there. The deal at Wimbledon is better for the Broncos I am told. How much better I do not know, but it could not be worse. London Broncos v Sheffield eagles had a reported attendance of 350. If the club are charging £25.00 a head, then that is £8,750 on the gate. I am going to assume that Mach day costs, such as stewarding, police presence, Medical presence etc are covered by the rent. As the bars and food concessions aren't ours either, the staff at those and their wages are not our problem either. 11 home games a year for the first team at this rate delivers £96,250 in income. Given I was told back in 2007 that ticket revenue is actually about 60% of the advertised prices, this figure is now less than £60,000. For whatever the amount of money we are paying to trailfinders, we are also getting training facilities, Dave's new Gym that he built, somewhere for the Academy lads to play, as well as the Ladies too...... https://youtu.be/Aam3_ld7dzQ. ....anyone would think it is perfect. Now......let's move those 350 fans to Plough lane and charge them the same gate money. Same 60k a year in income and before we discuss training, the academy, the ladies etc.....we're £140,000 down after we've paid to play on 1 pitch 11 times If all 350 people drink like me (5 pints a game) @ £5 a pint with a margin of £3 a pop, then we are still £90,000 in the hole...... To be crystal clear, This move is yet another admission that the cub, its owner and it's appointed staff haven't the foggiest idea how to market itself. They simply up sticks every 5 years and cross their fingers that they'll discover a pocket of southerners who loved Rugby League but just didn't know it yet The common denominator is marketing. Instead of flushing 200k a year on rent, try spending it on a structured campaign to attract customers. 5,000 paying customers and mr Hughes can retire.....2,000 and we still haven't filled Eaing so why we're moving to a 10,000 seat football stadium across the river is insanity, pure and simple. Sorry. But wimbledons debt is all we are servicing. Not the club, nor the academy or ladies and certainly not the fans

Victor wrote: Certainly at Ealing the entire takings from the Bars and food go to Trailfinders. The manner of that deal is why post match entertainment was never going to happen there. The deal at Wimbledon is better for the Broncos I am told. How much better I do not know, but it could not be worse. London Broncos v Sheffield eagles had a reported attendance of 350. If the club are charging £25.00 a head, then that is £8,750 on the gate. I am going to assume that Mach day costs, such as stewarding, police presence, Medical presence etc are covered by the rent. As the bars and food concessions aren't ours either, the staff at those and their wages are not our problem either. 11 home games a year for the first team at this rate delivers £96,250 in income. Given I was told back in 2007 that ticket revenue is actually about 60% of the advertised prices, this figure is now less than £60,000. For whatever the amount of money we are paying to trailfinders, we are also getting training facilities, Dave's new Gym that he built, somewhere for the Academy lads to play, as well as the Ladies too...... https://youtu.be/Aam3_ld7dzQ. ....anyone would think it is perfect. Now......let's move those 350 fans to Plough lane and charge them the same gate money. Same 60k a year in income and before we discuss training, the academy, the ladies etc.....we're £140,000 down after we've paid to play on 1 pitch 11 times If all 350 people drink like me (5 pints a game) @ £5 a pint with a margin of £3 a pop, then we are still £90,000 in the hole...... To be crystal clear, This move is yet another admission that the cub, its owner and it's appointed staff haven't the foggiest idea how to market itself. They simply up sticks every 5 years and cross their fingers that they'll discover a pocket of southerners who loved Rugby League but just didn't know it yet The common denominator is marketing. Instead of flushing 200k a year on rent, try spending it on a structured campaign to attract customers. 5,000 paying customers and mr Hughes can retire.....2,000 and we still haven't filled Eaing so why we're moving to a 10,000 seat football stadium across the river is insanity, pure and simple. Sorry. But wimbledons debt is all we are servicing. Not the club, nor the academy or ladies and certainly not the fans

Re: Fans consultation : Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:47 pm  

orangeman wrote: London Broncos v Sheffield eagles had a reported attendance of 350. If the club are charging £25.00 a head, then that is £8,750 on the gate. I am going to assume that Mach day costs, such as stewarding, police presence, Medical presence etc are covered by the rent. As the bars and food concessions aren't ours either, the staff at those and their wages are not our problem either. 11 home games a year for the first team at this rate delivers £96,250 in income. Given I was told back in 2007 that ticket revenue is actually about 60% of the advertised prices, this figure is now less than £60,000. For whatever the amount of money we are paying to trailfinders, we are also getting training facilities, Dave's new Gym that he built, somewhere for the Academy lads to play, as well as the Ladies too...... https://youtu.be/Aam3_ld7dzQ. ....anyone would think it is perfect. Now......let's move those 350 fans to Plough lane and charge them the same gate money. Same 60k a year in income and before we discuss training, the academy, the ladies etc.....we're £140,000 down after we've paid to play on 1 pitch 11 times If all 350 people drink like me (5 pints a game) @ £5 a pint with a margin of £3 a pop, then we are still £90,000 in the hole...... To be crystal clear, This move is yet another admission that the cub, its owner and it's appointed staff haven't the foggiest idea how to market itself. They simply up sticks every 5 years and cross their fingers that they'll discover a pocket of southerners who loved Rugby League but just didn't know it yet The common denominator is marketing. Instead of flushing 200k a year on rent, try spending it on a structured campaign to attract customers. 5,000 paying customers and mr Hughes can retire.....2,000 and we still haven't filled Eaing so why we're moving to a 10,000 seat football stadium across the river is insanity, pure and simple. Sorry. But wimbledons debt is all we are servicing. Not the club, nor the academy or ladies and certainly not the fans Can’t argue with that and remember we still have marketing work to do to get new fans to cover not only those we lost this year but ones we are losing because of move to South of river plus of course those for whom recent announcements have tipped over the edge, Will I get a ST and travel with my son South of the River to see a bottom 5 side ? With every passing announcement I’m thinking maybe not.

orangeman wrote: London Broncos v Sheffield eagles had a reported attendance of 350. If the club are charging £25.00 a head, then that is £8,750 on the gate. I am going to assume that Mach day costs, such as stewarding, police presence, Medical presence etc are covered by the rent. As the bars and food concessions aren't ours either, the staff at those and their wages are not our problem either. 11 home games a year for the first team at this rate delivers £96,250 in income. Given I was told back in 2007 that ticket revenue is actually about 60% of the advertised prices, this figure is now less than £60,000. For whatever the amount of money we are paying to trailfinders, we are also getting training facilities, Dave's new Gym that he built, somewhere for the Academy lads to play, as well as the Ladies too...... https://youtu.be/Aam3_ld7dzQ. ....anyone would think it is perfect. Now......let's move those 350 fans to Plough lane and charge them the same gate money. Same 60k a year in income and before we discuss training, the academy, the ladies etc.....we're £140,000 down after we've paid to play on 1 pitch 11 times If all 350 people drink like me (5 pints a game) @ £5 a pint with a margin of £3 a pop, then we are still £90,000 in the hole...... To be crystal clear, This move is yet another admission that the cub, its owner and it's appointed staff haven't the foggiest idea how to market itself. They simply up sticks every 5 years and cross their fingers that they'll discover a pocket of southerners who loved Rugby League but just didn't know it yet The common denominator is marketing. Instead of flushing 200k a year on rent, try spending it on a structured campaign to attract customers. 5,000 paying customers and mr Hughes can retire.....2,000 and we still haven't filled Eaing so why we're moving to a 10,000 seat football stadium across the river is insanity, pure and simple. Sorry. But wimbledons debt is all we are servicing. Not the club, nor the academy or ladies and certainly not the fans Can’t argue with that and remember we still have marketing work to do to get new fans to cover not only those we lost this year but ones we are losing because of move to South of river plus of course those for whom recent announcements have tipped over the edge, Will I get a ST and travel with my son South of the River to see a bottom 5 side ? With every passing announcement I’m thinking maybe not.

Re: Fans consultation : Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:03 pm  

BigTime wrote:

Will I get a ST and travel with my son South of the River to see a bottom 5 side ? With every passing announcement I’m thinking maybe not.

I was spoilt. I lived 50ft from Griffin Park & was a 15 minute bus ride from The Stoop. I went to the last SL game at the Hive when I was back in London.....I doubt I'd have made the effort too regularly given it was over an hour on public transport. Trailfinders would've been perfect if I'd stayed in London as I lived 1 mile away......Plough Lane would be a complete non starter.
At Griffin Park, I used to sit with a lovely lady from Leeds, who lived down near Bromley. 3 Hours was her journey time on Sundays......that level of commitment is to be applauded, but I can get to a Warriors game here, including travel to airport, flight, travel to Mt Smart in a similar timescale and not as nightmarish with TFL engineering works etc.

This move needs to be rethought. Unless Hughes has been assured of a spot in the 20, I can see no reason for becoming a carbon copy of the skolars and shifting an hour away from the fans they have left.....the silence of Rimmer of late and various other chairmen throwing their oars in points to something seismic approaching the sport. Knowing RL, it'll involve flogging off 50% of the game for far too little and the proceeds all going to 5 clubs and Bradford

Re: Fans consultation : Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:22 pm  

orangeman wrote:

If all 350 people drink like me (5 pints a game) @ £5 a pint with a margin of £3 a pop, then we are still £90,000 in the hole......:

Surely all bar & catering revenues will go to Wimbledon.

Re: Fans consultation : Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:54 pm  

jbuzza wrote:

Surely all bar & catering revenues will go to Wimbledon.

That's what I thought, but Victor was told otherwise.

Re: Fans consultation : Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:34 am  

Even if they suddenly reversed course and stayed at Ealing it's too late to rebuild this club, the damage has been done. I don't think even the supporters trust could muster enough people to save the club now - a couple of years ago, probably yes, but not now.

Re: Fans consultation : Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:21 am  

jbuzza wrote:

Surely all bar & catering revenues will go to Wimbledon.

A Wimbledon statement confirmed there would be an element of revenue sharing on food and drink. Understandably the % cut wasn't mentioned.

Re: Fans consultation : Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:32 am  

jbuzza wrote:

Surely all bar & catering revenues will go to Wimbledon.

It will same as at Trailfinders!!

Re: Fans consultation : Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:39 am  

BroncoBen wrote:

jbuzza wrote:

Surely all bar & catering revenues will go to Wimbledon.

It will same as at Trailfinders!!

Sadly that is not the case. Thus no effort by the Broncos to put on post match entertainment.

Re: Fans consultation : Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:43 am  

Or pre-match. In fact not much on pitch entertainment for all those watching against the top sides (which next season will mean pretty much them all compared to us).