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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:06 am  
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Bit harsh to dig Dorn out mate, the game was well and truly over by then and he'd run himself ragged, one of the few who showed any real effort


exactly

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We could have done with the Widnes 23, Phil Joseph. Excellent


agreed, he stood out for me as well, clearly badly wanted the win for his team
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:01 am  
Disgusting display.

Only highlight were the garish Widnes jerseys.

I blame it all on Gus, no excuses...
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:43 am  
Thats it chaps lets accept a missed simple one on one tackle. Its only 4 points. After all it is Dorn- he is our fast runner not tackler.

What other inadequate aspects of the game are you going to accept

Were you happy with Witts missed tackles? Probably not because he isnt a fast runner he is a kicker!!

Do you not think teams target certain players. Left side of defence (centre) being one, Witt the other, hence why TR changed them 2 spots around
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:08 am  
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I blame it all on Gus, no excuses...


excellent post :CLAP:
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:17 am  
All I will say I wish players would put the ball down over the line, before they get excited! we played badly, but we had chances! Just such a shock after the two friendlies.
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:08 pm  
I'm personally offended by how bad that performance was.

If I hear one more person say "oh well it's only round 1" I'll scream. The fact that its round 1 does not excuse the fact that we've squandered two points at home to Widnes.

I can't even begin to describe how awful that was. Lovell, Kaufusi, Howell particularly wretched. After Gower went off we looked even more clueless, which I didn't think was possible after the first 40 minutes. Terrible atmosphere. Whose ideas was it to let Widnes fans sit on the east stand halfway line? Apparently we had a good pre-season, though I couldn't see any trace of it here. This idea that Widnes were awful - utter codswallop. They completed their sets and accomplished the basics, and made very few errors. We barely completed a set, knock-ons aplenty. Embarrassing. Humiliating.

Absolute rubbish from beginning to end. It feels like its going to be a long season.


About sums up my feelings - just about everything wrong. Atmosphere was awful (possibly our fault we did little shouting, though not much to shout about.

i went to Perpignan and the team played well and i was feeling very positive........... Problem lays with the forwards, we dont create a base at all - Widnes may be limited but they stuck to an effective game plan, made hardly any mistakes wehereas we - penalties were atrocious (and they had Roby in Perpignan so they knew he would be hot on laying on), handling errors etc etc. Lovell isnt a centre and shouldnt be there - but Channing is too small, JO'C seems to be going backwards.

dorn and Dixon only ones who can really hold their heads up - Bryant, Rodney, Bailey did OK. Chad's article in the programme interesting and seemed to suggest that mentally on match day last year team were not right - well that certainly happened this game!

Fear the worst for next week?
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:22 pm  
Remember the season at Griffin Park where we lost our first game to Halifax (the only game they won) and we still made the playoffs? Always look on the bright side of London!
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:40 pm  
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Thats it chaps lets accept a missed simple one on one tackle. Its only 4 points. After all it is Dorn- he is our fast runner not tackler.

What other inadequate aspects of the game are you going to accept

Were you happy with Witts missed tackles? Probably not because he isnt a fast runner he is a kicker!!


i assume this is directed at least partly at me

didnt say i accepted or was happy with it did i, just that it was more understandable for dorn to miss a tackle at the end cos he was presumably knackered after doing the work of more than one for the rest of the 80- had the rest of the team had matched that effort then the same situation with widnes able to create 1-on-1 chances at the end may not have happened, or mattered.

no i was not happy with witts missed tackles in the same way that I wasnt happy with of the teams missed tackles, nor "other inadequate aspects of the game," where did i say i was? i was thoroughly appalled with the performance as clearly stated
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:15 pm  
This was not one of our worst performances, some last year were far worse. If you look at the stats we were outperforming Widnes in most areas except one - errors made 20 against 8.

It also shows that the players making the most yards Dorn, Lovell, Dixon were also making the most errors. This all points to a confidence problem, though from considering the game I'm not sure whether it was over-confidence or under-confidence. Over to you Mr Rea.

No crowd is going to be noisy if you are down after a few minutes and 18 nil at half time.

Very disappointed but not as angry as last year there was a decent team out there playing with commitment but c**king it up.
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Re: Widnes : Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:21 pm  
Error count very telling...................................... our handling at times is awful. we also never seem to learn re laying on and constantly get penalised, though i accept Mr Roby was not consistent
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