Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:29 am  

I think that 250 is a VERY optimistic estimate of our support on Saturday - it wouldn't suprise me if there are more Crusaders' supporters at the Skolar's Cup Final eve game than we had at Leigh (one coach already booked just for the game plus a fair few independents oop for 't Cup).

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:59 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Who said we have a culture of acceptable failure?.

There is strong evidence from recent seasons.

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:17 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Who said we have a culture of acceptable failure?

David Hughes did when he didn't sack Rob Powell for his failures, nor Gus MacKay for his, and we the fans did when we clapped Broncos off the pitch after all their hammerings.

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:36 pm  

rob13 wrote:

David Hughes did when he didn't sack Rob Powell for his failures, nor Gus MacKay for his, and we the fans did when we clapped Broncos off the pitch after all their hammerings.

When the captain leaves because we don't train hard enough.

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:38 pm  

When Kaufusi is allowed to traipse around putting in one or two decent runs per game.

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:40 pm  

When they can't be arsed to promote the games (ironically this game has seen a little effort)

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:41 pm  

When the CEO is allowed to treat the fans with contempt

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:51 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Who said we have a culture of acceptable failure?

I do....along with a fair few others who frequent these boards...

Rooster Booster wrote:

You and your impression of events of course.

I don't do impressions......but if I did, they'd probably be Carlsberg!

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:32 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

I do....along with a fair few others who frequent these boards...

To suggest a professional sporting club has a "culture of acceptable failure" is utter nonsense.

Because we are crap in various areas, does not mean we have such a culture. It's another one of your out and out statements that's eminated from your frontal lobes, which sits comfortably for you, yet none of us really knows what goes on or is going on behind the scenes.

For example I can't imagine for a moment that people like Tony Rea has a culture where is is happy that we're getting smashed or he'd be viewed as a failure, nor an owner that leaves at half time, not even a professional cricketer who has played for their country.

Being able to and having the ability to turn things around at our club is completely different from thinking we have a culture where failure is acceptable.

Re: Angus James Mackay FOR THE LOVE OF GOD : Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:44 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote:

To suggest a professional sporting club has a "culture of acceptable failure" is utter nonsense.

Because we are crap in various areas, does not mean we have such a culture. It's another one of your out and out statements that's eminated from your frontal lobes, which sits comfortably for you, yet none of us really knows what goes on or is going on behind the scenes.

For example I can't imagine for a moment that people like Tony Rea has a culture where is is happy that we're getting smashed or he'd be viewed as a failure, nor an owner that leaves at half time, not even a professional cricketer who has played for their country.

Being able to and having the ability to turn things around at our club is completely different from thinking we have a culture where failure is acceptable.

I actually go and watch the games and I would say there is a culture of failure. Obviously that is not by design and to some it may not be acceptable. But there is no obvious action from the top to do anything about it. You only had to watch last weeks game. No obvious plan, basic mistakes, indiscipline. From certain players it looks like a lack of effort in many games. As a club we have been distracted by problems of our own making such as finding a new ground which gives an excuse for minimal effort to attract fans to the current location.