Re: Joey Grima : Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:26 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

Jim, of course the one game you came to last year makes you perfectly placed to judge how the fans who actually go to games view the match day experience and clubs engagement with the fans.

It is far easier to engage with or to FEEL engaged with when you are dealing with miniscule numbers. London Broncos have gone from being the hosts at a full on banquet to becoming one of the 5 contestants on come dine with me.....and as for engagement with the fans, I hear the coach to Halifax was Rammed Full.... engagement is the club putting on the coach and arranging for multiple drop off points enabling fans from all over the city to get home at a reasonable hour. I think the fans themselves were possibly the last people to book and to fill a full sized away coach for fans with paying fans, but the club can't even give it away.....but they've engaged the clique on here, that's for sure

As for the Hive and the Match Day Experience, I believe the Hive is a perfect little ground for the little club we have become, but that will never change my opinion and that held by the thousands of stay away fans, that the fact we are now such a little club is down to the utter mismanagement under the reign of David Hughes. I enjoyed the game day experience, especially as my daughter drove me there, but if it were a fortnightly trek via Public Transport, I have to say I'd probably pick and choose the games I went to if I Still lived in London so long as the club weren't in SL.

By the way, your patronising tone in regards "actually attend" games does you no favours. Helen Keller could tell you that we have an average of 650, about half of last years and about 15% of the average we had when Hughes took sole control of the club, that we are now playing 2nd tier, sorry, mid table 2nd tier Rugby League and that there are very strong murmurings that we will once again be moving to a new "home' at the end of this year....she would neither need to be there, nor would she have to have use of her eye's, ears or vocal cords to understand that the smaller the fan base, the more engaged they feel.

Re: Joey Grima : Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:47 pm  

Good to hear the confirmation that despite all your wittering about fan numbers you you self have just said that if you were in London you would pick and choose and be a part time supporter, I will throw you the question back that you asked me, if we dropped another tier would you bother.
By the way the coach went to keighley

Re: Joey Grima : Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:44 am  

mickyb1234 wrote:

Good to hear the confirmation that despite all your wittering about fan numbers you you self have just said that if you were in London you would pick and choose and be a part time supporter, I will throw you the question back that you asked me, if we dropped another tier would you bother.

As with the Championship games and if the Hive was still "home" to the club and I were still leaving in West Ealing or Brentford, then yep, I'd bother on a game by game basis if we were in the 3rd tier. Why, do you think we'd average 650 down on the next peg?

The problem is that if you're not a die hard ST holder, then in the eyes of the clique on here, you're a fair-weather fan. There are literally over 1,100 more people who 6 years ago bought Season Tickets to the Harlequins Rugby League Club season and they were accompanied by another 2,000 who walked up on the day. Do you regard these people as fair-weather now that they have shown by their actions that the club isn't worth supporting? Do they have to attend every game and get on every away coach before their opinions are listened to?

Here's a novel idea. Rather than changing our name, back office staff, playing staff, coach, home ground, administration offices, training facilities or Shirt colours....why don't we try the one thing that we haven't changed. Can you guess what that is?

mickyb1234 wrote:

By the way the coach went to keighley

Ah....so that's why it was empty then....nothing to do with the "engaging" club not listening to their "engaged" supporters regarding drop offs in Town on the way home, but the extra 14 miles

Re: Joey Grima : Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:19 am  

Fair weather fan is a term you have decided on, no one else. You conveniently forget you asked me the question first suggesting that I would walk away, I was merely asking your opinion. Please explain clique! If you mean posters on here then your part of it, or is the clique only those that have a different opinion to you?
You know many years ago when I used to go to a lot of away games by coach, this was in a reasonable sized northern town, funny enough there was one pick up and one drop off point, the coach company didn't do door to door. On to the modern age, I would be gobsmacked if the coaches that came from leigh or Bradford went door to door.
Back to joey, yep in my opinion as far as fans engagement is concerned his approach attitude did help it seemed the whole club had a change of thinking. As a coach you are right he didn't get the performance out of the players, does it bother me that he looked passionate at every post match interview, at least he showed some passion, we used to complain how lifeless TR seemed.

Re: Joey Grima : Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:42 pm  

Don't think anyone expects door to door but London would have been nice and then maybe there would have been more than 10 on it.

Re: Joey Grima : Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:30 pm  

Jim Pooley wrote:

It is far easier to engage with or to FEEL engaged with when you are dealing with miniscule numbers. London Broncos have gone from being the hosts at a full on banquet to becoming one of the 5 contestants on come dine with me.....and as for engagement with the fans, I hear the coach to Halifax was Rammed Full.

Drone

... engagement is the club putting on the coach and arranging for multiple drop off points enabling fans from all over the city to get home at a reasonable hour. I think the fans themselves were possibly the last people to book and to fill a full sized away coach for fans with paying fans, but the club can't even give it away.....but they've engaged the clique on here, that's for sure

As for the Hive and the Match Day Experience, I believe the Hive is a perfect little ground for the little club we have become, but that will never change my opinion and that held by the thousands of stay away fans, that the fact we are now such a little club is down to the utter mismanagement under the reign of David Hughes. I enjoyed the game day experience, especially as my daughter drove me there, but if it were a fortnightly trek via Public Transport, I have to say I'd probably pick and choose the games I went to if I Still lived in London so long as the club weren't in SL.

By the way, your patronising tone in regards "actually attend" games does you no favours. Helen Keller could tell you that we have an average of 650, about half of last years and about 15%

Drone
of the average we had when Hughes took sole control of the club, that we are now playing 2nd tier, sorry, mid table 2nd tier Rugby League and that there are very strong murmurings that we will once again be moving to a new "home' at the end of this year....she would neither need to be there, nor would she have to have use of her eye's, ears or vocal cords to understand that the smaller the fan base, the more engaged they feel.

Drone

Re: Joey Grima : Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:53 pm  

Thecranewife wrote:

Drone

all you do is re-publish my posts....the ones that apparently bore you. Keep up the good work

Re: Joey Grima : Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:30 am  

Bring back Joey.....park footie, park footie coach park footie venue

Re: Joey Grima : Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:17 pm  

That would be the Joey Grima, assistance coach at Parramatta, Cronulla and St George? Park footie coach?

Re: Joey Grima : Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:02 pm  

. Keep up the good work [/quote]

Thanks for the feedback

Drone