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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:45 pm  
The Chronicler of Chiswic wrote:
Thoughts that the club's being gradually wound down in preparation for a drop into the Championship occur to me.

Been thinking that all season!
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:48 pm  
Maybe even going altogether and end of the line for LB
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:57 pm  
Let's get one thing crystal clear. There is no Championship future for the Broncos. It's Super League or oblivion, even Gus is aware of that, as should the RFL hierarchy be. If you want park football enjoy the Skolars or the Stags. For me there is a crying need to turn the Broncos around, but it really depends on ownership and RFL leadership, both have been lacking for me for some time.
I have no answers here. All I can do is turn up every week. But I won't turn up for anything other than Super League - it's what the Broncos are for!
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:02 pm  
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Let's get one thing crystal clear. There is no Championship future for the Broncos. It's Super League or oblivion, even Gus is aware of that, as should the RFL hierarchy be. If you want park football enjoy the Skolars or the Stags. For me there is a crying need to turn the Broncos around, but it really depends on ownership and RFL leadership, both have been lacking for me for some time.
I have no answers here. All I can do is turn up every week. But I won't turn up for anything other than Super League - it's what the Broncos are for!


Why is there no Championship future?

Skolars and Stags have a future outside SL. Why wouldn't Broncos? Look at North Wales Crusaders.
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:05 pm  
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I have read reports that he fell out with TR, and that he has 'abandoned' the Broncos. Sounds like a sinking ship to me!


If he did fall out with them then was this as a result of losing the captaincy? Or was this a "punishment"?
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:08 pm  
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Maybe even going altogether and end of the line for LB


Sheffield, Gateshead, Scorpions and Crusaders are all former "expansion" SL sides (or offshoot thereof). They continue as semi-pro sides; Sheffield and Crusaders aren't doing too badly either. Surely there is more joy as a fan of Sheffield or Crusaders than Broncos?
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:28 pm  
If you were to look at things from Craig Gower's perspective then you would be absolutely adamant that the team is not performing to the standards required. We concede 30+ points per game and he is in a team which mashes together a handful of good performers with players of lesser quality and a fair percentage of players who are constantly unavailable and which could reasonably have been assessed as high injury risks given their track records. Gower is a fabulous player who has been on the winning side throughout his career except for the past 18 months. I am sure he would have reminded players in a just and fair manner as to what was required but he struck me as having a ferocity that may have come through in his demands for greater performance.

If you were to look at things from Tony Rea's perspective then you would be absolutely adamant that the team is not performing to the standards required. We concede 30+ points per game and he has arrived to find more-or-less a full team of players under contract with no scope to move in season 1 and some scope in season 2 but little room to move in terms of 'overseas trained' players who were after all given long contracts by Powell. He has thus inherited a team with a losing culture and a lot of players who cannot fulfill their duties due to decline through age and injury. The Player's Union were insistent he notified all his squad on the 1st May as to his intentions. Not surprisingly he has indicated that there are few players he definitely wishes to retain. This has been demotivational and I am sure that the ferocity of Gower in his desire to win would have not won over everyone at a time when egos had not been massaged.
Remember that previous managers had simply renewed pretty much everyone, every year.

At some point over the past few weeks, it has become clear to Tony that it was not working out and he has tried to change things but losing Craig Gower is not the answer as we will find no one near as good I would suggest. :(
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:35 pm  
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Why is there no Championship future?

Skolars and Stags have a future outside SL. Why wouldn't Broncos? Look at North Wales Crusaders.


and will those clubs ever go any further? I very much doubt it!
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:18 pm  
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Sheffield and Crusaders aren't doing too badly either.


Sheffield and Crusaders have the ability to bus in ready made good quality semi-pro players. A semi-pro Broncos won't (if full time pros aren't willing to move to London from the north, why should a semi pro?). A squad of local players not bolstered with Antipodeans would have to be found, assuming that all but a few of the youngsters go (and that includes many of the young London products who no doubt will want to stay full time).

I am yet to be convinced there is a player pool in the south for Broncos, Skolars and Hemel all to have competitive teams and such a pool will undoubtedly diminish as one of the first casualties of a move from pro to the semi-pro will be the Broncos academy set up. The death or demotion of the Broncos would undoubtedly impact negatively on the competitiveness of Skolars and Hemel too.
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Re: Gower - Going, going, gone? : Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:39 pm  
Interesting times. If Super League loses the Broncos that is the last remnant of the notion the Rugby League is a national sport. I don't suppose we'll ever know exactly why Gower has gone but he has certainly looked disenchanted with his team mates recently while standing under the posts after the team has conceded a try.
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