Re: For those that went to The Hive and supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:05 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

"probably". Wrong. Yes it is.

describe what you mean by uninterested?

Uninterested as in...he didn't look very interested in tackling the man with the ball. A full back facing a straight 2 on 1 is not expected to work miracles, but at least either hit the guy with the ball or genuinely go for the intercept.....a few times last weekend he did neither....he didn't look interested.

If you're going to pick holes in my posts regarding my opinion of the players performances I can always remind you of the merits of hiring a CEO from cricket

Re: For those that went to The Hive and supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:47 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Uninterested as in...he didn't look very interested in tackling the man with the ball. A full back facing a straight 2 on 1 is not expected to work miracles, but at least either hit the guy with the ball or genuinely go for the intercept.....a few times last weekend he did neither....he didn't look interested.

If you're going to pick holes in my posts regarding my opinion of the players performances I can always remind you of the merits of hiring a CEO from cricket

He went for the ball carrier on one occasion, on others he was caught in no man's land. Over here they say take one person out. If the bloke passes, tough, if he's dummied, he gets smashed. I don't see getting it wrong as being uninterested.

Re: For those that went to The Hive and supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:14 pm  

I thought that we played again very conservatively as per Widnes with only a few offloads and did not make many metres running as per last week at a bigger pack. Only one player made over 100 metres for us and also there were few clean breaks. In defence it was generally average with many players having 3 missed tackles and Moore close to double digits. O'C turned up late and made 0 tackles. It doesn't surprise me we conceded 44 points.

We were ripped off when one knock on was dropped onto a Broncos heel and re gathered whilst Hock should have seen red and was left on to set a try up, whilst Bishay should have grounded and we had a bad spell before half time which killed the game off.

Second half was a 6 point margin so better.

What was pleasing was Gigot with his brilliant kicking game, having been anonymous the week before. Cook, Cunningham, Krasniqi and Caton Brown were also really very good.

I thought the Leeds loanees were very quiet in attack and need to raise their game.

Mataitonga seemed a bit aimless when he got the ball and not keen to run.

What was pleasing is the ethos of working hard and the clubs youngsters like Lovell and Meek Mike did well.

It was a relief to see the team again that is for sure. I was shocked at a Widnes team who I see as borderline 8 and this was better, but progress is needed

Re: For those that went to The Hive and supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:34 pm  

Mark, very interested in your analysis. Is this your own or are you using a computer programme based on full coverage or stats? Any pro playing experience? This is a genuine enquiry (in the current climate on this board it seems necessary to say this) and I am interested in the basis for your thoughts.

Re: For those that went to The Hive and supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:34 pm  

Some great points mark. Was impressed by Gigots kicking ability and spatial awareness of the Hive pitch already also.

Think Mataitonga is getting a lot of unecessary criticism. Of course I understand the backs have to run forward when they receive the ball back in our defence....but I don't think he was moving aimlessly, but looking for gaps. See it from the Shauny Johnsons, Sam Tomkins how they are always looking and probing for the correct angle to make a break....hopefully in time we will see some exciting running Rugby from him.

Re: that went to The Hive aFor thosend supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:42 pm  

RLLDN wrote:

Some great points mark. Was impressed by Gigots kicking ability and spatial awareness of the Hive pitch already also.

Think Mataitonga is getting a lot of unecessary criticism. Of course I understand the backs have to run forward when they receive the ball back in our defence....but I don't think he was moving aimlessly, but looking for gaps. See it from the Shauny Johnsons, Sam Tomkins how they are always looking and probing for the correct angle to make a break....hopefully in time we will see some exciting running Rugby from him.

The OP directed this thread to those who went to the Hive. I didn't and so have no comment other than that drawing conclusions on players' performances based purely on a couple of minutes "highlights" is nonsense. We conceded a lot of tries. Most of the "highlights" show these tries being scored against us so of course any of our players involved may show up in a bad light.

And the other 78 minutes of the match? How can I or anybody else who wasn't there possibly comment on them?

Re: For those that went to The Hive and supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:47 pm  

First 25 minutes pretty even then Broncos had a mini meltdown for the last 15 of the half, 2nd half was pretty even even if some of the tries were a little soft, the Salford fullback though was like sh*t off a shovel.

Re: that went to The Hive aFor thosend supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:50 pm  

BroncOnIon wrote:

The OP directed this thread to those who went to the Hive. I didn't and so have no comment other than that drawing conclusions on players' performances based purely on a couple of minutes "highlights" is nonsense. We conceded a lot of tries. Most of the "highlights" show these tries being scored against us so of course any of our players involved may show up in a bad light.

And the other 78 minutes of the match? How can I or anybody else who wasn't there possibly comment on them?

Nay bother. Try and make the next game and you will have more to comment on the whole game than just the highlights perhaps.

Re: that went to The Hive aFor thosend supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:56 pm  

RLLDN wrote:

Nay bother. Try and make the next game and you will have more to comment on the whole game than just the highlights perhaps.

Well, I wasn't planning on going to Bradford, even if there were to be a game there this weekend, but had thought of enduring FGW and TfL for the Wire game. However, FGW are planning on using a bus instead of a train for the first part of my journey so my enthusiasm is somewhat dimmed.

Re: that went to The Hive aFor thosend supported the Bronco : Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:58 pm  

BroncOnIon wrote:

Well, I wasn't planning on going to Bradford, even if there were to be a game there this weekend, but had thought of enduring FGW and TfL for the Wire game. However, FGW are planning on using a bus instead of a train for the first part of my journey so my enthusiasm is somewhat dimmed.

Lol, sorry, I meant the next Hive game on Sunday 9th March...but yeah try and make it if you can!Get a taster of The Hive