Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:49 pm  

And the amateur team that I played for in York is no longer playing!!! park teams come park teams go in all sports everywhere in the country.

Love the optimism on here though, maybe we should all pack up and go home.

English RL continually re invents itself, it has done through its history. The play off system next year could!!! I say could BTW turn out to be quite entertaining.
As I said before the 4 from the top coming down will be the teams that have been losing, the 4 from the bottom tier will have been winning, so one lot will be going in to the back end of the season with confidence and presumably playing well, where as the other lot will be lacking in confidence.

Look at it this year! if you went to the 8 team league as it stands now what would it be?
Us, Bradford, Salford, Wakey
Leigh, fev, Halifax, Doncaster.
On current form how would that end up? probably the way teams are playing Salford (only coz of recent buys) Wakey Leigh fighting for 2/3 place Bradford, Us Fev Halifax, Donny, although I might put Fev ahead of us.
But thats down to current form and going in to games with confidence and a winning or losing mentality
so on that Leigh would get promoted and we would be in the mix with Bradford and fev for the 4/5 play off.

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:14 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

Look at it this year! if you went to the 8 team league as it stands now what would it be?
Us, Bradford, Salford, Wakey
Leigh, fev, Halifax, Doncaster.
On current form how would that end up? probably the way teams are playing Salford (only coz of recent buys) Wakey Leigh fighting for 2/3 place Bradford, Us Fev Halifax, Donny, although I might put Fev ahead of us.
But thats down to current form and going in to games with confidence and a winning or losing mentality
so on that Leigh would get promoted and we would be in the mix with Bradford and fev for the 4/5 play off.

That would be entertaining!

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:19 pm  

Southern Reiver wrote:

The danger is as someone has said its a fresh group of our youth being bullied in the Championship rather than the current youth being bullied in the Super League.

But surely to God were going to sign a few players either with SL experience who are out of contract or a few Championship level players? We are surely going to need a few old tough heads to help the kids along no?

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:24 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

Love the optimism on here though, maybe we should all pack up and go home.

Alternatively you identify the weaknesses in the structure and work to improve the situation. To his credit it is clear that Joe is well aware of the issues and doing what is on his power to resolve the problems in player pathway. Fingers crossed the money men, be it at Broncos and/or the RFL are so far sighted.

I've said on here before that my favourite level of RL is Championship. I watched a lot of it on lot of it on long weekends up north and have thoroughly enjoyed my two seasons watching Championship One. Next season could be enjoyable but I'd rather it goes down in southern RL history as the season we finally began to got to grips with the challenges in player pathway down south. Something that goes beyond the Broncos but in which they are hugely important.

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:54 pm  

TaRL PaRL wrote:

On a venue, London Welsh have signed up for a 3 year deal for the Kassam stadium in Oxford. This leaves them paying the Council for the Old Deer Park in Richmond. Advantages, Zone 4 underground/overground/fast trains, great club house and facilities. Disadvantage one poor 1,000 seater stand, but you can stand another 1,000 people round the outside of a rugby field do we need more?

LW used to have problems when playoffs for RU season came around as cricket season had started. Not sure the venue can be used for rugby during summer months.

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:32 pm  

Rob from Erith wrote:

But surely to God were going to sign a few players either with SL experience who are out of contract or a few Championship level players? We are surely going to need a few old tough heads to help the kids along no?

Agree that's what we need as a minimum. But as yet we've yet to sign or announce them. Got to hope thise signed have the right mentality.

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:06 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

I agree with you GF their is no pathway for players into the top flight, thats why Tony Clubb is playing at Wigan, LMS at Saints, K Dixon probably soon to go to a SL team MCB just been picked up, where did they come from?

....none of these players would have developed as they have donen or quite probably come to the attention of their new employers without the London SL outfit.......that's the PATHWAY. Now, if there's a young LMS out there, he's limited in his aspirations and options to either head north or play for the other lot.

Have you compiled the list of open age SE RL clubs with a 5+ year pedigree yet Michael? Looking forward to hearing tales of guys picked from London park RL pitches to play for Wigan.

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:39 pm  

The Chronicler of Chiswic wrote:

According to the handbook of the Southern Amateur Rugby League (as it was called then) for 1985/6 it's members were Aberavon, Bexley Heath, Cheltenham, Ealing, Fulham Amateurs, Fulham Travellers, Hemel Hempstead, Hounslow, London Colonials, Milton Keynes, Peckham, Peckham Pumas, Queen Mary College, St. Mary's College, Streatham Celtic, West London Institute, Wokingham and Oxford and Cambridge Universities. Obviously at this level clubs come and go (in Hemel's case to better things), but to lose all that is bizarre. No strong amateur base just makes our problems worse.

IIRC Ealing continue in some form, via a series of mergers, as South West London Chargers.

Wokington after a series of moves and name changes still exist as Elmbridge Eagles.

Oxford and Cambridge Universities still play RL.

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:42 pm  

Hedgehog King wrote:

IIRC Ealing continue in some form, via a series of mergers, as South West London Chargers.

Wokington after a series of moves and name changes still exist as Elmbridge Eagles.

Oxford and Cambridge Universities still play RL.

The point is "how many professional RL players came through the ranks of these park sides to play at the top level WITHOUT passing through the Broncos/Quins hands on the way?

Re: Anyone believe we can come back? : Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:57 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

The point is "how many professional RL players came through the ranks of these park sides to play at the top level WITHOUT passing through the Broncos/Quins hands on the way?

None.

That's not to say that no professional RL players will ever be signed up by M62 sides though.

Rob Purdham works for Wigan and scouts Cumbrian RL on their behalf.

I'd suggest that this will probably happen in London if Broncos don't bounce back.

At the moment it doesn't pay to scout London RL as Broncos will have first call of any promising players but as they can't keep those players, it's easier to let Broncos do the scouting and even blood the players for you.