Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 3:56 pm  

Unfortunately there's no precedent for a succesful top level RL franchise in an area where there's not already been a semi-pro or a very strong amateur presence previously. Generally it doesnt work, which is why the NRL have only been putting new franchises in areas with a strong RL presence. Auckland, Gold Coast, North Queensland. Dumping them in new areas never results in good crowds. Gateshead, Sheffield, Wales, London. To be honest its a small miracle and a testament to DH that we're still here when so many others have failed. Melbourne are the only exception and they've had a massive financial corporate backer and have bent the rules here and there!

Catalans get good crowds because there are 1000s of treizistes in the area. We need to survive best we can for another 5 or 10 years and really push forward the amateur and semi-pro game in the south east. Moving to anywhere else in London will not increase crowds. I think we could get 4-5k crowds and a better long term stadium deal in a big town outside london. And also less competition for sponsors/local businesses. But if we are staying in London then The Stoop is the best bet. 20 mins from Waterloo, great stadium and we dont have to move again.

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 3:59 pm  

Moving outside London would be a disaster. It would really put all our eggs in one very small basket. With regards to sponsors, on the flip side, in a "big town", there is far less money floating around than in London.

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 4:05 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

Moving outside London would be a disaster. It would really put all our eggs in one very small basket. With regards to sponsors, on the flip side, in a "big town", there is far less money floating around than in London.

Well it wouldnt, we would still have the South East catchment area, not many of our fans live in SW london. And having a normal town, with normal newspapers who just want to support their local sports teams and a normal town centre to market in would be much easier and cheaper. Big fish in a small pond and a more grateful population who are looking for a team to support with their family. Why do you think S*racens play in Watford, W*sps play in Wycombe, *rish play in Reading? Smart business decisions.

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 4:14 pm  

[quote="Dave Lister"]We didn't get good crowds at the Valley at all.
according to official stats rugbyleagueproject.org we had an average of5,699 in 1996 at the valley highest att 10,014 v wigan. your comment please

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 4:19 pm  

Tre Cool wrote:

Well it wouldnt, we would still have the South East catchment area, not many of our fans live in SW london. And having a normal town, with normal newspapers who just want to support their local sports teams and a normal town centre to market in would be much easier and cheaper. Big fish in a small pond and a more grateful population who are looking for a team to support with their family. Why do you think S*racens play in Watford, W*sps play in Wycombe, *rish play in Reading? Smart business decisions.

I can see what you are saying, and I realise this is obviously a hypothetical discussion, but the RU teams could play anywhere and draw a crowd. I think our current location is perfect, with only one professional RL team in the South, we have to represent and draw from London as best we can. The prospect of a day out in Wycombe, Reading or Watford hardly inspires me tbh.

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 4:22 pm  

sweeney wrote: rubbish http://www.slstats.org/t12/London+Bronc ... mmary.html http://www.slstats.org/t12/London+Bronc ... mmary.html Struggling to see the positives there.

sweeney wrote: rubbish http://www.slstats.org/t12/London+Bronc ... mmary.html http://www.slstats.org/t12/London+Bronc ... mmary.html Struggling to see the positives there.

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 4:32 pm  

[quote="Dave Lister"]What don't you understand about the fact that we have only been there for THREE SEASONS, compared to ONE HUNDRED years of other teams, who only get 2 or 3 times as many supporters for their home games? Still waiting.
i understand enough that it aint worked in 3 seasons.that it wont work in another 100 seasons.we have gone backwards.what makes you believe it will succeed.face it,we are going nowhere fast and we need a kick start somewhere else.do you honestly think we would not generate much needed publicity/fans at the olympic stadium.the transport links alone we help.

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 4:37 pm  

Dave Lister wrote: http://www.slstats.org/t12/London+Broncos/2000/Summary.html http://www.slstats.org/t12/London+Bronc ... mmary.html Struggling to see the positives there. you said we didnt get good crowds at the valley.the stats say different.i dont get what you are saying.

Dave Lister wrote: http://www.slstats.org/t12/London+Broncos/2000/Summary.html http://www.slstats.org/t12/London+Bronc ... mmary.html Struggling to see the positives there. you said we didnt get good crowds at the valley.the stats say different.i dont get what you are saying.

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 4:37 pm  

sweeney wrote:

i understand enough that it aint worked in 3 seasons.that it wont work in another 100 seasons.we have gone backwards.what makes you believe it will succeed.face it,we are going nowhere fast and we need a kick start somewhere else.do you honestly think we would not generate much needed publicity/fans at the olympic stadium.the transport links alone we help.

So you think we should undo whatever work we have done, upsticks, AGAIN, with no guarantees, instead of working with what we have?

Three years is enough for you, disregarding the fact that other clubs have built up their fan bases over DECADES. Get this into your head, our sport is still a MINORITY sport in the South, crowds aren't just suddenly going to appear out of thin air. It takes TIME.

The transport links to our ground are brilliant. In fact, getting to Stratford would be a pain in the booty. There is absolutely 0 chance of us getting anywhere near the Olympic Stadium for starters, so please just stop it.

Re: Olympic Stadium : Sat May 29, 2010 4:38 pm  

sweeney wrote:

you said we didnt get good crowds at the valley.the stats say different.i dont get what you are saying.

You are of the opinion that 2 seasons with 16 attendances of under 3000 consitutes decent crowds?