Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:40 am  

TaRL PaRL wrote:

...Drongo - no-hoper or fool. Someone whose "lift doesn't go to the top floor" or whose "lights are on but no-one's home". Derives from a racehorse of that name in the 1920s, which never won a race out of 37 starts.
So I make that another 17 games before we are renamed London Drongos

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:48 pm  

Wouldn't it be funny if Bradford get their 6 points back at the High Court, pick up a few more points and Salford are relegated with us.

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:45 am  

scimitars wrote:

Wouldn't it be funny if Bradford get their 6 points back at the High Court, pick up a few more points and Salford are relegated with us.

Alas.......it ain't going to happen. Dr marwans millions had better not result in visits to the hive for next years end of season jamboree though.......I suspect he will walk if they aren't in the top 8 next year.

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:47 am  

"I suspect he will walk if they aren't in the top 8 next year"

Based on what?

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:46 am  

Based on his whole approach, sorry mate not be nasty or anything but I agree, he wants silver, if he does not get it then he will go and do something else that gets him that silver.
WIth all the money he is spending he should be getting results, he isnt getting em!

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:02 pm  

I always think of a Super League squad has typically four segments

Overseas players (likely to be highest paid players and probably better than your average)
Home Trained Players (wages vary depending on previous club and a mix of quallity)
Club Trained Players in top 25 (On various amounts and variable quality but generally cheaper than external signings)
Outer Squad Club Trained Players (probably on low wages and of variable potential, little proven ability)

The Doctor had a team broadly equivalent to ours - a squad that had finished in the bottom three since 2007.
The good club trained players had been systematically poached.
So he was building on a poor base of players.
He was also a bit naive in that he would have signed Red Rum rather than a horse with lineage traceable to Red Rum and thus with something in front of him rather than a good career behind him.
He was then signing players who have had an ordinary career but one good season.
I wouldn't give Harris the job because he took a top 8 side to one that went to just 4 wins and is thus unproven so I don't think he's learnt his lesson in entirety.

But now he is understanding the market a bit more, taking a gamble on younger prospects.

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:24 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

Based on his whole approach, sorry mate not be nasty or anything but I agree, he wants silver, if he does not get it then he will go and do something else that gets him that silver.
WIth all the money he is spending he should be getting results, he isnt getting em!

Hmmmmm, reminds me of someone we had in charge a few years ago

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:35 pm  

How do some people come to their judgment on Marwan ? I wonder if it is misplaced hope or total guesswork.
Before the experts reply think about his record in racing for the last few years he's tried to win the Melbourne Cup.
His records show that after each failed attempt it has increased his determination to succeed by increasing his spending on giving his horses the best chance to succeed ie basing his horses in Dubai and Melbourne for a longer period to get use to the conditions.
Add this to the rest of his early life and the one thing you can't accuse him of is being a quiter.

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:46 pm  

bezzerscr wrote:

How do some people come to their judgment on Marwan ?

No one has a bottomless pit of money, not even Marwan, as you say he likes success, but you know he lets old nags go when they stop winning, all the money he has will never see him find the success he wants at Salford, the one who made the big mistake was Saints owner, but then he did not want anyone with perhaps more money!

Re: Mason Caton-Brown.........Gone! : Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:44 pm  

"He lets old nags go" we talking Noble,Tim Smith,Shannon McPherson,
Vic Mauro or even Liam Foran. Again think it shows he will do what he thinks is necessary to achieve his aims as opposed to walking away.
Now those all factually happened, I look forward to someone now giving some facts why he would walk away after only 2 seasons
As for the money he's just had another 10k winner at Chester, that's around £435,000 so far this season and that's from 182 runners he normally averages around 500 runners for a season.