Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:49 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Anything over a 400 average next year is dependant on the curiosity of away fans more than anything. Broncos fan base is not the youthful group it used to be and regardless of their devotion, I can't see them getting across from sidcup for the visit of dewsbury in the same number was say Leeds.

I'd be careful about knocking the devotion of the Sidcup Massive GF if I were you!

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:37 am  

gutterfax wrote: As for the belief that a winning team in the championship will attract more fans than a spanked one in the top tier Find me a club with a bigger support AFTER relegation in RL. It's less than 10 years since the Championship drew 21k to the play-off final and a TV attendance higher than any Super League round game. Reading http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/o ... ague.sport seems scarcely believable such is the damage the RFL did to the Championship simply by closing off promotion. Cas averaged 5k+ that year - in answer to your question, I don't know if this was more or less than the year before in Super League but it would probably be broadly similar. However, the conditions for a vibrant Championship are back - there'll be meaningful play-offs, promotion is possible and Sky TV coverage returns. It's up to the clubs to pick up the gauntlet but it is eminently possible that the Broncos can add to their 800 or so speccies if they are (1) competing in the top half of the table and (2) can engage with the current and lapsed fans. You might think both are unlikely but the point is that your rubbishing of the Championship ignores its very recent history when Cas, Widnes, Hull KR and the like put out decent teams and played to some healthy, and occasionally massive, crowds. But, as I say, it's up the Championship clubs - now including the Broncos - to make the most of this tail wind.

gutterfax wrote: As for the belief that a winning team in the championship will attract more fans than a spanked one in the top tier Find me a club with a bigger support AFTER relegation in RL. It's less than 10 years since the Championship drew 21k to the play-off final and a TV attendance higher than any Super League round game. Reading http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/o ... ague.sport seems scarcely believable such is the damage the RFL did to the Championship simply by closing off promotion. Cas averaged 5k+ that year - in answer to your question, I don't know if this was more or less than the year before in Super League but it would probably be broadly similar. However, the conditions for a vibrant Championship are back - there'll be meaningful play-offs, promotion is possible and Sky TV coverage returns. It's up to the clubs to pick up the gauntlet but it is eminently possible that the Broncos can add to their 800 or so speccies if they are (1) competing in the top half of the table and (2) can engage with the current and lapsed fans. You might think both are unlikely but the point is that your rubbishing of the Championship ignores its very recent history when Cas, Widnes, Hull KR and the like put out decent teams and played to some healthy, and occasionally massive, crowds. But, as I say, it's up the Championship clubs - now including the Broncos - to make the most of this tail wind.

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:32 am  

Pleased it will be hopefully shown on the telly, i cancelled premier sport this year because they dropped it, their was some pretty good games shown.
NRL somehow I find dull, its wierd.

The new system actually gives (ambitious) clubs somehting to play for, unlike this season

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:02 am  

The reality of the middle 8 for the 4 Championship clubs is the "something to play for" is going to be to get fifth spot and hope to win the playoff!

[brian2]

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:35 am  

Gutters, genuine question: Why do you so often resort to personal abuse in "support" of your arguments? I really don't understand it and, from my perspective, it serves only to diminish your credibility.

Why i rarely post anymore. Every thread ends up in the same situation

I actually usually agree with most of what gutterfax says - - but this constant dragging back of every thread to the same topic/argument is a bit depressing.

I have hated this season, worse than the last two which were pretty dire. We are not competitive, losing players by the week etc. ........... I have been to every home game and Widnes, HKR away. For the first time i am off to france and giving St Helens a miss,


But will be back nest year - hopeful, but worried........................

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:39 am  

I find it very hard to be positive about next year or any year until we have a long term agreement in place with a stadium. I'm sick of supporting a club that changes stadium every couple of years, we will NEVER be successful at any level with no stability and until the club presents me with a long term secure plan I won't be going to home games unless it particularly suits me.

The planning for next year is actually quite encouraging, but it means nothing if the club don't secure an actual home long term.

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:43 am  

Tre Cool wrote:

I find it very hard to be positive about next year or any year until we have a long term agreement in place with a stadium. I'm sick of supporting a club that changes stadium every couple of years, we will NEVER be successful at any level with no stability and until the club presents me with a long term secure plan I won't be going to home games unless it particularly suits me.

The planning for next year is actually quite encouraging, but it means nothing if the club don't secure an actual home long term.

yeah and club colours..........man I wish we could back to the old blue, red, yellow...And don't get me started with the current logo

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:57 am  

Partisan wrote:

And don't get me started with the current logo

Would you deny Gus an enduring legacy?

I bet he still wears his replica gear down the pub.

Or on a park bench with a bottle of White Lightning these days.

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm  

Cowgirl Nostalgist wrote:

Would you deny Gus an enduring legacy?

I bet he still wears his replica gear down the pub.

Or on a park bench with a bottle of White Lightning these days.

....yeah with his laptop searching for free Wi-Fi, so he can post another pointless comment...

Re: Which players are staying? : Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:46 pm  

Partisan wrote:

....yeah with his laptop searching for free Wi-Fi, so he can post another pointless comment...

Your not suggesting Gus and Gutterfax are the same person are you. Mind never seen them in teh same room together?

Back on topic. Oscar Thomas re-signs for Broncos from London Irish.