: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:40 am  

Darthchris wrote:

How many Big SL clubs play on Sundays?
How many big sl clubs are in big metropolitan cities with a mix for people from all over the world supporting a vast range of teams rather than their local club?

You make comparisons to Big SL clubs that are not relevent. They play Friday nights, something that would never work for us. Our situation is unique.

Saturdays are best, regardless of the stay-aways who prefer watching soccer.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:45 am  

Dave Lister wrote:

You make comparisons to Big SL clubs that are not relevent. They play Friday nights, something that would never work for us. Our situation is unique.

Saturdays are best, regardless of the stay-aways who prefer watching soccer.

I wasnt making the comparison, POD was

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:46 am  

Darthchris wrote:

I wasnt making the comparison, POD was

Sorry, quoted wrong person

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:14 am  

Harlequins Rugby League has about appx 1,300 supporters who attend (nearly)every home game (maybe not tonight...thus the nearly).
So, where do we find the 11,000 we need to fill the ground?
Firstly, on our own doorstep there is a population of nearly 200,000 (est figure 2008), so we really shouldn't look to far afield to start with.

Our shirt sponsor states that it has 3,033 full time students with another 590 odd part timers.
Target 1: The students of St Mary's. Cost....minimal if any
There are over 4,500 16-18 yr olds studying at Richmond UT College. Do we market the games to them?
Target 2: The Students of RUTC. Cost....Minimal if any
The residents of the borough. The R&T Times has a circ of 34k, with 24k of these letterboxed. It is great that we get exposure, but it is a murmer as opposed to a shout. We need to find another route to market.
The borough themselves publish Arcadia Magazine, that is letterboxed to all 80,000 homes in the borough 6 times a year. 1 page in this publication has a book price of £1,400.......now, that would seem to be a bit of a bargain?
Target 3: Locals...cost...between £1,000 and £1,400 to reach everyone.
The Businesses in the Borough. AFAIK, Quins are members of the local Chamber of commerce.........er....HELLO!!!!!!!We will never sell boxes to the same people who have them for Union...Deutch Royal Halifax Barclays Ltd just aren't interested, but a local business may well be.
Target 4: Local Businesses........cost...free if we leverage Quins membership

So, there are 4 routes to market with little or no expense to the club giving exposure to in excess 200,000 people and most businesses in the borough......

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:42 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Harlequins Rugby League has about appx 1,300 supporters who attend (nearly)every home game (maybe not tonight...thus the nearly).
So, where do we find the 11,000 we need to fill the ground?
Firstly, on our own doorstep there is a population of nearly 200,000 (est figure 2008), so we really shouldn't look to far afield to start with.

Our shirt sponsor states that it has 3,033 full time students with another 590 odd part timers.
Target 1: The students of St Mary's. Cost....minimal if any
There are over 4,500 16-18 yr olds studying at Richmond UT College. Do we market the games to them?
Target 2: The Students of RUTC. Cost....Minimal if any
The residents of the borough. The R&T Times has a circ of 34k, with 24k of these letterboxed. It is great that we get exposure, but it is a murmer as opposed to a shout. We need to find another route to market.
The borough themselves publish Arcadia Magazine, that is letterboxed to all 80,000 homes in the borough 6 times a year. 1 page in this publication has a book price of £1,400.......now, that would seem to be a bit of a bargain?
Target 3: Locals...cost...between £1,000 and £1,400 to reach everyone.
The Businesses in the Borough. AFAIK, Quins are members of the local Chamber of commerce.........er....HELLO!!!!!!!We will never sell boxes to the same people who have them for Union...Deutch Royal Halifax Barclays Ltd just aren't interested, but a local business may well be.
Target 4: Local Businesses........cost...free if we leverage Quins membership

So, there are 4 routes to market with little or no expense to the club giving exposure to in excess 200,000 people and most businesses in the borough......

Your ideas on marketing seem much better thought through than the ones you have on betting

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:59 am  

jbuzza wrote:

Your ideas on marketing seem much better thought through than the ones you have on betting

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:43 am  

gutterfax wrote:

:P

But then again I don't know anything about marketing...

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:12 pm  

Darthchris wrote:

How many Big SL clubs play on Sundays?

More than play on Sundays.

"Dave Lister wrote:

Saturdays are best, regardless of the stay-aways who prefer watching soccer.

In other words it suits you, so b*gg*er anyone else. That approach isn't going to sustain the club long term.

This whole issue has been done to death since we returned to The Stoop. If it was as obvious as some people like to make out that Saturday afternoons are a no brainer we'd already be pulling as many punters as everyone else, we wouldn't have the smallest crowds in the league, and there wouldn't even be a debate.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:52 pm  

Let’s face it; all the arguments that take place on this board over whether games should be played on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday won’t make a frigging difference to our attendances. Fulham/ Crusaders/Broncos/Quins have p*ssed off enough supporters over the years to fill the Stoop twice over! What the club has to do now is try and market the club in a sensible fashion and, amongst other things, take note of some of the ideas that spring up from time to time on this board.
Tonight, I will be attending only my second game this season. Other commitments mean that I can’t make Saturday games and for what it is worth I will add my opinion to this debate.
Other members of my family are season ticket holders but because they have been supporting their football team since before Fulham RLFC was a twinkle in Ernie Clay’s eye’s they see football as their number one priority and miss Quin’s Saturday games when their football team is at home. They have been season ticket holders for a number of years and anyone who says they are less committed than someone who turns up every home game is talking absolute rubbish.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:22 pm  

The more I read the forum on this subject the more I think the club should really look at a dual start day. Winter Sunday until the RU/WENDYBALL season is over then Saturday afternoon's. This season Brentford are having a good Year their crowds are up and they have clashed with Our kick off times.