Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:45 pm  

CrusaderPete wrote: We need to start a campaign to get Mandy Koukash to take over!!!!! Would be great right, esp now we know she may not have the winning bid to take over Bradford. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/26629186 But after the good Dr.'s criticism of London in the SuperLeague, is it a non-starter?

CrusaderPete wrote: We need to start a campaign to get Mandy Koukash to take over!!!!! Would be great right, esp now we know she may not have the winning bid to take over Bradford. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/26629186 But after the good Dr.'s criticism of London in the SuperLeague, is it a non-starter?

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:50 pm  

Paddock Punter wrote:

Then because someone peed of the Quins and we moved everything out of the stoop I think we got our own stuff

I can confirm 100% that we received ALL ticketing and sales data when we left the stoop offices. We did sweet love all with it because people were running around protecting their own positions by firing others.

I know I annoy people. But there is a reason that those who want the game to grow, including those in the RFL use me as an outlet for their frustrations!

David Hughes has to go. He has to realise he will not see a penny of his money back, but as it stands currently, he may still get a stand named after him one day, If he continues to hang on to us like a spoilt child, then I am sorry, but love HIM!

Too many mistakes and too arrogant to accept them....the RFL have forced his hand in getting rid of Gus......he really hasn't a clue!

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:53 pm  

RLLDN wrote:

But after the good Dr.'s criticism of London in the SuperLeague, is it a non-starter?

He slagged off London to "get down with the fans".


He hasn't a clue about running anything is sports other than something that wins a race/game that he can then sell sperm from.

Adrian Morley should re-read his contract

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:56 pm  

meliferra wrote:

No the information belongs to you. If I pay council tax to one council it does not mean that every other council can use the information I give because they also collect council tax. That the hive had to wait for permission from data protection to use the distribution list shows that DP view them as separate data holders

Not my understanding of how this works.

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:32 am  

gutterfax wrote:

He slagged off London to "get down with the fans".


He hasn't a clue about running anything is sports other than something that wins a race/game that he can then sell sperm from.

Adrian Morley should re-read his contract

Lol,true. Though, at the end of the day, money talks and can save and propel a team into something from nothing - eg Chelski and Man Citeh who had owners who didn't have a squat of experience in football, but now have teams constantly in contention for trophies.

We so need an investor or someone to join TK. Hope it happens before we get relegated!

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:48 am  

jbuzza wrote:

Not my understanding of how this works.

Not my understanding either if this is the case how come companies are in business selling data to other companies I am sure I did not give permission to any company who got hold of my details and are for ever calling me about PPI

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:06 am  

Simple. Ring the ticket office and ask them why they have not specifically targeted last season's Season Ticket Holders regarding renewal as well as other regulars and why they haven't been sympathetic to the needs of concession ticket holders like they have in the case of sixtysomething. Barnet fans previously. (Precedent set?)
And then perhaps suggest it would make sense to contact these people separately from just a generic email, mailshot.
If I get time at work today, I'll do it myself.

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:02 am  

jbuzza wrote: Not my understanding of how this works. I'll let you decide, obviously this is my interpretation that buying tickets for the Stoop from Harlequins RU does not allow the Hive to automatically use it for marketing purposes to sell tickets for the Hive. As others and I have said, the season ticket information held by Broncos admin staff should've been passed on and if it has then for the Hive not to contact these people makes no sense. http://ico.org.uk/for_organisations/pri ... idance.pdf Consent is central to the rules on direct marketing. Organisations will generally need an individual’s consent before they can send marketing texts, emails or faxes, make calls to a number registered with the TPS, or make any automated marketing calls under PECR. They will also need consent to pass customer details on to another organisation under the first data protection principle. If they cannot demonstrate that they had valid consent, they may be subject to enforcement action.

jbuzza wrote: Not my understanding of how this works. I'll let you decide, obviously this is my interpretation that buying tickets for the Stoop from Harlequins RU does not allow the Hive to automatically use it for marketing purposes to sell tickets for the Hive. As others and I have said, the season ticket information held by Broncos admin staff should've been passed on and if it has then for the Hive not to contact these people makes no sense. http://ico.org.uk/for_organisations/pri ... idance.pdf Consent is central to the rules on direct marketing. Organisations will generally need an individual’s consent before they can send marketing texts, emails or faxes, make calls to a number registered with the TPS, or make any automated marketing calls under PECR. They will also need consent to pass customer details on to another organisation under the first data protection principle. If they cannot demonstrate that they had valid consent, they may be subject to enforcement action.

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:10 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Meliferra.....what's the best way to get hold of AK?

I see him at the Hive. Never had a number or Email for him.

Re: Why is it all going horribly wrong? : Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:35 pm  

meliferra wrote: I'll let you decide, obviously this is my interpretation that buying tickets for the Stoop from Harlequins RU does not allow the Hive to automatically use it for marketing purposes to sell tickets for the Hive. As others and I have said, the season ticket information held by Broncos admin staff should've been passed on and if it has then for the Hive not to contact these people makes no sense. http://ico.org.uk/for_organisations/pri ... idance.pdf It all depends on the form of consent collected when the data was collected. This is all way off topic but there is no "data protection" you can go and ask for permission to use it. Unless you are an expert in the field I suggest we leave it there.

meliferra wrote: I'll let you decide, obviously this is my interpretation that buying tickets for the Stoop from Harlequins RU does not allow the Hive to automatically use it for marketing purposes to sell tickets for the Hive. As others and I have said, the season ticket information held by Broncos admin staff should've been passed on and if it has then for the Hive not to contact these people makes no sense. http://ico.org.uk/for_organisations/pri ... idance.pdf It all depends on the form of consent collected when the data was collected. This is all way off topic but there is no "data protection" you can go and ask for permission to use it. Unless you are an expert in the field I suggest we leave it there.