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: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:13 pm  
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why do you hold the bbqs on saturdays?


Its geared around an event each fortnight that sadly will not move due to Quins RL :D

Seriously, its not Saturdays by choice, its when it needs to happen

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You are choosing to exclude yourself, the club are not excluding you.

End of story.


Fair enough, I guess I cannot argue with that but as I said its not about me. Its about the other missing thousands and we all know the problem still exists and is not being addressed.

A better crowd tonight but still pitiful
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: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:52 pm  
The missing thousands are not all choosing to exclude themselves, but are not aware of what we have to offer.
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: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:03 am  
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The missing thousands are not all choosing to exclude themselves, but are not aware of what we have to offer.


But Dave, there are approx 2000 missing from last season, in fairness they ARE missing as opposed to not being aware.
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: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:50 am  
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But Dave, there are approx 2000 missing from last season, in fairness they ARE missing as opposed to not being aware.


And I would be very surprised if any significant portion of those directly chose not to come because of the day of kick off due to the fact they prefered to watch another sport.
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: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:17 am  
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And I would be very surprised if any significant portion of those directly chose not to come because of the day of kick off due to the fact they prefered to watch another sport.

I wouldn't argue with that. Most of those missing are probably not watching any other sport at the times we're playing regardless of which day we play. What you lose on the swings I think you gain on the roundabouts in this respect. My personal preference is Sunday afternoons, but it's not as strong as it used to be. I've seen every home game so far this year, and expect to do so for the rest of the season.

The biggest problems as I see it are related to marketing and media apathy. I can't recall if it's on this thread or another one but Gutterfax's recent suggestions for targetting local media even if it means spending a bob or two seem sound enough to me. At the moment it just looks like not enough is being done. I also think we need to establish a regular matchday and time for a few years. Sundays would be my personal suggestion if only because so many of our Saturday afternoon fixtures tend to get shifted anyway for one reason or another. (I know some Sunday games would also move to Saturday evenings to suit Sky.) I also think it might help to play on a day when there are fewer other sporting counter-attractions. anyway, I don't think the Saturday/Sunday issue is the biggest factor attendance-wise.

I also feel the whole ticketing and pricing situation is a big negative. There simply has to be a stand or part of a stand with unallocated seating so walk-up ticket purchases can sit together without having to buy together in advance, and whilst I acknowledge the need to minimise staffing costs by closing some stands I think it's shortsighted and short-term to open less than half the seats in the ground. We're effectively sending out the message that we don't expect to get more than 4,000 turning up. The ticket pricing in recent years is another problem IMO. At Griffin Park I think there were always two basis prices - one for the seats and one for the terrace. (There may have been a small number of premium seats in the centre of the stand.) Prices didn't fluctuate, there was a difference of three or for quid between the two and they rose a bit each season. Since we've been at The Stoop the prices have gone up and down like Bill Clinton's trousers. One year existing STHs were offered a generous discount, which when not repeated left them feeling ripped off. Last year there wre ridiculously cheap tickets which were the equivalent of supermarket "value" lines and probably have the subliminal effect of making people think the product must be cheap in every way; instead of attracting newcomers this possibly just encouraged existing STHs to renew at a rock bottom price, and once again they'll have felt cheated now the prices have gone back up again. And finally there are just too many price bands with the cheapest about a third of the price of the dearest to sit in the same stand! Keep it simple - one premium price for reserved seating in the centre blocks near the halfway line and one standard price for unallocated seating in the end blocks or behind the goal.
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: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:25 am  
Do you really think the ticketing has a significant impact on the size of the crowd.

If there are price options them all the better. If you ring up as a newbie and the club offer 6 price ranges that must be good. Im not sure people would think Im not going to watch RL due to this.

Christ it isnt difficult- got a ticket, got a seat, now sit down and watch the game
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: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:42 pm  
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Do you really think the ticketing has a significant impact on the size of the crowd.

If there are price options them all the better. If you ring up as a newbie and the club offer 6 price ranges that must be good. Im not sure people would think Im not going to watch RL due to this.

Disagree, first I don't know about all these price bands, it is not clear at all on the website. I bought my tickets online and from trying in the Centre or on the sides, I had the choice between 25 and 20 quids tickets. It is a lot of money, plus the train ticket from Waterloo for those leaving outside SW London (8 quids). This was clearly an issue when I tried to convince friends to come to the match.
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: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:19 pm  
As an indication what do you belive is a reasonable price to pay to see a top flight 80 minute sporting event, minus the travel.

We cant reinburse or weight ticket prices on each individuals travel mode
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: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:02 pm  
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As an indication what do you belive is a reasonable price to pay to see a top flight 80 minute sporting event, minus the travel.

We cant reinburse or weight ticket prices on each individuals travel mode


Sure, but the whole cost is what is taken into account when making the decision to come. I think the cost for my seat on the side should be 15 quids and there should be an entry price for 10 quids, maybe behind the posts. If people want premium seats in the Centre, fine. But the entry prices should be lower.
If the stadium was full I would not say that, but given that the club struggles to attract a large crowd, I think that the pricing should be reconsidered.
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: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:04 pm  
We all have our preferences on match day, on where we want to sit, on procing et al

The one things we are all 100% united on is that the number of bums on seats needs to increase. We I suspect are all concerned that nothing whatsoever is appearing to be done to address this issue. It was an issue at the end of last season and 6 months on nothing is being done.

Sadly putting on Karoake after a match is simply not the answer. There is a desperate need to do something. We are argue about what it is but deapite all this the club appear to be pretty inactive in solving it

At the end of the day the responsibility for getting people into the ground lays with the club and its time for action
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