Re: Avoiding relegation : Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:27 pm  

markrammond wrote:

I think all supporters would feel it very relevant to know that David Hughes lost enthusiasm with the imports who badly let him down - most noteably v Wigan and Warrington - and paid them off but is now genuine about rebuilding the club. I thought he was just marking time on the cheap but that isn't the case he assures me and I feel his enthusiasm is beginning to get back to its old levels, after all there was a time he was barely seen towards the end of last season and not his usual chirpy self. He wants to win though that is for sure and he is not despondent. I don't think TK is a definite long-term option just yet but I feel his interest is growing and if more people come back then that will all help.

It is all very well for DH to have his mojo back but his poor decisions and procrastination have left us in very poor position indeed. The club had two fundamental problems to solve: under performance of the playing squad and poor attendance. Analysis of historical data would tell you there is a correlation between these items.

Was a change in venue the answer to the issue of attendances ? Again, an analysis of historical data would have suggested otherwise. While the Hive offers a potential solution to DH's lack of interest in marketing by letting someone else benefit from the results, a similar deal could potentially have been found without a move. This is a move, by the way, that seemingly consumed the limited capability of the CEO for an entire season and meant no efforts were made to attract a crowd during that time.

Worse though, DH crippled preparation for this season when relegation would be reintroduced. While I can absolutely understand DH's frustration with the previous squad it was a situation of under achievement rather than a simple lack of quality. So we have a situation where the same coach is left to cobble together a squad at the last minute. A problem entirely of our own making leaving us with the likely outcome of Championship RL or bust.

And let us not forget this is the final year of a licence period which DH stood in front of us and told us he was committed to and submitted an application on the basis of criteria which would now not be met.

We should be thankful that we are not being docked points.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:45 pm  

No doubt if Bradford go down and we don't, the topic of "points being docked" will become a hot one on the VT.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:41 pm  

Avoided administration so nothing to be docked points for.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:20 pm  

Tre Cool wrote:

Not liking is not the same as not respecting. I doubt many players 'liked' Alex Ferguson.

Some despised him. They had that much respect for him that they were prepared to not play for New Zealand again so they didn't have to work with him. Do you get that. Rather than "doubting" many players liked.... Your opinion is exactly that. An opinion.

Cowgirl Nostalgist wrote:

I'd give some credence to the views of Mark Bryant.

The rest don't deserve their opinions to be taken into account.

Oh OK then I won't listen to anyone that worked with him or played under him anymore, but will listen to one person you suggest. Sorted.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:23 pm  

Southern Reiver wrote:

Avoided administration so nothing to be docked points for.

read the entire regulations regarding the area of administration, CVA etc.....it was only the fact that we "supposedly" paid everyone off (Hughes found his spine and his chequebook) that we weren't open to "sanction".

Now, not one to start unsubstantiated rumours (unless it's on the Bradford Board), but we are on extra cash this year from the RFL......for Marketing (BRIBE)........it would be possible to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6......this is RL after all.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:24 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Some despised him. They had that much respect for him that they were prepared to not play for New Zealand again so they didn't have to work with him. Do you get that. Rather than "doubting" many players liked.... Your opinion is exactly that. An opinion.


Oh OK then I won't listen to anyone that worked with him or played under him anymore, but will listen to one person you suggest. Sorted.

Oi.....get your own soap box!

Re: Avoiding relegation : Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:32 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Some despised him. They had that much respect for him that they were prepared to not play for New Zealand again so they didn't have to work with him. Do you get that. Rather than "doubting" many players liked.... Your opinion is exactly that. An opinion.


Oh OK then I won't listen to anyone that worked with him or played under him anymore, but will listen to one person you suggest. Sorted.

He's back coaching in Rugby League now (care of rammo on twitter).....at Medway Dragons. Chances are, his new charges might overtake his old ones on the way down/up.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:35 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

rNow, not one to start unsubstantiated rumours (unless it's on the Bradford Board), but we are on extra cash this year from the RFL......for Marketing (BRIBE)........it would be possible to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6......this is RL after all.

In two threads you say Bribe. Seriously mate?

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:20 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

I won't listen to anyone that worked with him or played under him anymore

Listen to them all you want but I doubt I'm the only one to think most of them were over here on a paid holiday.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:37 am  

Cowgirl Nostalgist wrote:

Listen to them all you want but I doubt I'm the only one to think most of them were over here on a paid holiday.

I don't dispute that there would be people on here, of the same opinion. Doesn't detract the conversations I've had with the people who were coached by him or worked with him. Ultimately, the results will obviously indicate the extent of his work at the club and how he'll be judged/remembered. I myself was surprised by the positivity when I would hear about him because I judged the results whilst continually playing devil's advocate as I see fans' forums at my club, where people make comments or judgements that are so so off the mark.

This will obviously go round and round, so I'll keep schtum now