Re: Last year at The Stoop : Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:54 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

Its extremely pathetic, I would suggest that someone really needs to get out more if they find reading the thoughts of those concerned about the future of their club amusing. I think most on here are sick of the uninformed thinking that they know everything about our situation.

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:14 pm  

No one here is fully informed about Our Club as on all sports websites you get those who feel they are ITK and they are usually the ones who know the least!

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:30 pm  

all I know is under the current CEO, more time is and Money is spent looking for ways to cover up for his inadequacies than trying to do the stuff he was hired for such as attracting new fans and investors.

I have no idea as to why we are looking to leave the stoop other than to GUESS that Gus has told DH that TW2 is a Union heartland and he's believed him

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:08 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Ok what are the list of viable options in London and people discuss the merits and negatives of each.

Obviously stadiums like Wembley and Twickenham and the big premier clubs (Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Olympic Stadium, West Ham, Fulham) are completely unrealistic due to capacity against number of fans London can draw.

Also include the stadiums on the edges of London eg Wycombe, Watford.

I think you will find we already play at the best suitable facility.

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:23 pm  

jbuzza wrote:

I think you will find we already play at the best suitable facility.

If it was completely perfect and the terms were the same from the landlords we would not be leaving! I liked if at Charlton but many didn't, I never remember so much protest about leaving others grounds we have left, even The Stoop first time around, those who didn't agree just accepted that those who put the money in and finance the club have the right to do what they think is best. Until we know where we will play next season it is pointless getting all worked up about it.

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:25 pm  

jaybs wrote:

...and the terms were the same from the landlords we would not be leaving!

How do you know they are not ?

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:46 pm  

jaybs wrote:

If it was completely perfect and the terms were the same from the landlords we would not be leaving!

Really?
Could it not be down to the utter failure to engage with the local population at any level resulting in an 18% drop in attendances in the currents CEO's 2 year tenure, resulting in him looking for an excuse that might just keep him in a job that he is patently not qualified for?

His first year saw a lot of promises but ultimately an 8% reduction in crowds, so he blamed the "misunderstanding" who Harlequins Rugby League were. Then he decided to start looking for other places to call home, which regardless of whether they increase attendances, would give him at least another 24 months employment.

Maybe Harlequins RFC have tried to increase the rent......but the fact remains that we currently play in the only purpose built Rugby only stadium in the Region, we have attracted crowds of 9k+ to this ground in the past and just because the current management don't have a loving clue is not a reason to move the club again.

Ian Lenagan left us to take the reins at Wigan...he's increased their average by 25% in 5 years.......the RFL are partly to blame for our current situation by not letting him own both clubs...if he'd stayed, there is no way we'd be averaging 2,800.......IMHO that is.,

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:15 pm  

jaybs wrote:

No one here is fully informed about Our Club

You don't need to be Woodward & Bernstein to twig that Gus Mackay does sweet FA & David Hughes lets him for some strange reason.

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:08 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Really?
Could it not be down to the utter failure to engage with the local population at any level resulting in an 18% drop in attendances in the currents CEO's 2 year tenure, resulting in him looking for an excuse that might just keep him in a job that he is patently not qualified for?

His first year saw a lot of promises but ultimately an 8% reduction in crowds, so he blamed the "misunderstanding" who Harlequins Rugby League were. Then he decided to start looking for other places to call home, which regardless of whether they increase attendances, would give him at least another 24 months employment.

Maybe Harlequins RFC have tried to increase the rent......but the fact remains that we currently play in the only purpose built Rugby only stadium in the Region, we have attracted crowds of 9k+ to this ground in the past and just because the current management don't have a loving clue is not a reason to move the club again.

Ian Lenagan left us to take the reins at Wigan...he's increased their average by 25% in 5 years.......the RFL are partly to blame for our current situation by not letting him own both clubs...if he'd stayed, there is no way we'd be averaging 2,800.......IMHO that is.,

I'm not saying everything has been done completely right! but you can't compare Wigan and what IL has done with London, Wigan do TV advertising for their Big Matches each season and great full size poster campaigns around the town, now St Helens do nothing! but they still get in the crowds. I agree the RFL were completely wrong with IL and ownership, but now I will get accused of RFL bashing!

Yes we did get higher attendances mainly around the 8,000 plus but how long ago was that? I remember those type of crowds in the Virgin days, but there tended to be a lot of corporate support then and we had the tie in with Capital FM.

Glad that you do accept that our landlords may have upped the rent, we have the same problem as Salford Reds, we have very little income streams other than gate receipts, sponsorship and TV, plus of course David Hughes bank rolling us, that is never going to work and the RFL should have recognised that way back, I still find it difficult to accept why they rolled over backwards with the Bulls?

Re: Last year at The Stoop : Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:29 pm  

jaybs wrote:

Glad that you do accept that our landlords may have upped the rent

On the other hand they may not.