Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:19 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Potential to be outnumbered by Fev fans on our own patch.....exactly how far down the shi**er does the clown want to take us

So it's Gus fault Broncos fans can't / can't be bothered turning up to support their team ? Grow up.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:34 pm  

PC Plum wrote:

So it's Gus fault Broncos fans can't / can't be bothered turning up to support their team ? Grow up.

It's Gus's fault that all he will doing the way of promoting this game is tweetbook it and email us....the Challenge Cup game represents a perfect opportunity to introduce "new" fans to the game with a decent chance of a win.....

402 in 2011 and 652 in 2012....these are the 2 lowest crowds I can find for home London games in the SL era......both on his watch....the only 2 home games I can find in 18 years where there were less than 4 figures in the crowd.....

It's his job to make the fans "bothered"...it was his #1 priority before he realised he was poop at it so made the name change his #1 priority....now finding a new home is his #1 priority......his real priority is finding ways to hang on to his Job.

Try to defend him again if you must PC Plum....the facts, statistics and average attendances are indefensible.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:25 pm  

GF. You're now starting to sound like Dally Messenger or eels fan with the "You are Defending Gus" spin. Making it very "you're with me or against me". Which simply isn't true.

Thing is, I can't think of anyone who has comes on here defending Gus or are happy with club events. Hands up if you do. But just because someone gets fed up with your constant attacks on the club, on him or disagrees with you on a matter, or offers up a potential alternative explanation, does not mean they DEFEND GUS.

It's about the club. Everyone cares about that. People in the past have supported you and agreed with you on many, many things. Myself included. But when on nearly every single thread you post on these days, there's constant jibes, attacks and personal attacks on the club, and its staff, may have contributed to people being less interested in what you have to say. Myself included there also.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:38 pm  

Well said Boosty...personally, I am sick to death of reading the constant attacks on the club and it's staff.

The personal stuff directed at the CEO is way over the top and tbh, the ganging up of grown men on here is akin to bullies in the playground, imo.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:23 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

GF. You're now starting to sound like Dally Messenger or eels fan with the "You are Defending Gus" spin. Making it very "you're with me or against me". Which simply isn't true.

It's nothing like that....read my signature for an example of their work...I am simply stating FACTS....

Rooster Booster wrote:

Thing is, I can't think of anyone who has comes on here defending Gus or are happy with club events. Hands up if you do. But just because someone gets fed up with your constant attacks on the club, on him or disagrees with you on a matter, or offers up a potential alternative explanation, does not mean they DEFEND GUS.

I think you'll find PC Plum said...

So it's Gus fault Broncos fans can't / can't be bothered turning up to support their team ? Grow up.

...to me, this is another way of saying it's not Gus's fault. Sorry, but it is. He has had the 9 of the 10lowest attendances of all time on his watch....whose fault is it if not the guy tasked with increasing crowds?

Rooster Booster wrote:

It's about the club. Everyone cares about that. People in the past have supported you and agreed with you on many, many things. Myself included. But when on nearly every single thread you post on these days, there's constant jibes, attacks and personal attacks on the club, and its staff, may have contributed to people being less interested in what you have to say. Myself included there also.

So basically, you're saying that there's no point in highlighting the failures of the CEO because weall already know than and nothing's going to change? Tell you what......something has changed.....lessand less people attend London Broncos RL games at every turn.......I seriously doubt that their will be a team in SL come the 2015 Season...but hey ho,let's all stay quiet and let the club be destoyed

Dan Stains woz God wrote:

Well said Boosty...personally, I am sick to death of reading the constant attacks on the club and it's staff.

The personal stuff directed at the CEO is way over the top and tbh, the ganging up of grown men on here is akin to bullies in the playground, imo.

The stuff written about Gus isn't personal....I have said he's probably a really nice bloke, but professionally, he's killing the club. I am not "ganging up" on anyone....I have always called it as I've seen it and spoken from the heart...it just so happens that the current CEO is overseeing the darkest and most unprofessional period in the SL Clubs lifetime.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:57 am  

gutterfax wrote:

the current CEO is overseeing the darkest and most unprofessional period in the SL Clubs lifetime.

Knocks up a mean biryani though.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:32 am  

gutterfax wrote:

...it just so happens that the current CEO is overseeing the darkest and most unprofessional period in the SL Clubs lifetime.

Perhaps his tenure coincides with the collective previous incompetence/poor decsions from the likes of Rea, Brown, Lenagan, Hogg, Hughes, Blanchard, Powell, et al ?

As RB states, this is not a case of being pro GF or Gus, like you, I see the many issues.

And whilst you are looking for someone to blame, here's a couple of others. Elmbridge Eagles are running their annual festival for Minis / Juniors on morning of the St Helens games ..... starting up at 11am and involving hundreds of players and officials, many of whom normally watch the Broncos. I understand Staines are doing a similar thing. The Army Navy game has pushed the Saints kick off time back to 1pm. I will leave you to work out the impact, but nothing to do with Gus.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:08 am  

Gutterfax is God, which is why I'm an atheist.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:22 am  

gutterfax wrote: It's nothing like that....read my signature for an example of their work...I am simply stating FACTS.... You're forgetting I was mod of that board for a while. If you didn't agree with them you were clearly a Union lover or League hater. Very black and white. A bit like, if people don't agree with everything you say, we must be defending Gus or are apologists. gutterfax wrote: ...to me, this is another way of saying it's not Gus's fault. Sorry, but it is. He has had the 9 of the 10lowest attendances of all time on his watch....whose fault is it if not the guy tasked with increasing crowds? Fine. I'm sure the stuff being served on the pitch may have some contribution as to why people didn't renew their season tickets over the last few years though. But if it's simply all Gus's fault. Fine. gutterfax wrote: So basically, you're saying that there's no point in highlighting the failures of the CEO because weall already know than and nothing's going to change? Tell you what......something has changed.....lessand less people attend London Broncos RL games at every turn.......I seriously doubt that their will be a team in SL come the 2015 Season...but hey ho,let's all stay quiet and let the club be destoyed Am I saying that? Am I? Really? Where? Or is it your interpretation? Very black and white thinking again and a very predictable reply. We know the failings. You post them everyday. We know. We all don't feel the need to post on this forum very often indeed about how bad an individual is at the club. gutterfax wrote: The stuff written about Gus isn't personal....I have said he's probably a really nice bloke, but professionally, he's killing the club. I am not "ganging up" on anyone....I have always called it as I've seen it and spoken from the heart...it just so happens that the current CEO is overseeing the darkest and most unprofessional period in the SL Clubs lifetime. Sorry GF. Anyone that comes on here intimating our CEO cops it up the gary from Quins or suggests we are to visualise him gobbling off the boss. Really? I'm wondering what you deem is personal then? Here's a reminder of only two of your NON-personal comments. viewtopic.php?f=27&t=547176&tsmp=1365930706&start=60 viewtopic.php?f=27&t=547176&tsmp=1365930914&start=110 As I said. The way you post and the repetitive content, some of which has contained abuse, has had myself and maybe others losing compassion for your arguments or indeed the motivation to support what you say. All this despite our despair for the club. You used to make sense, we used to listen, sit back and realise. But lately it's become some sort of mission above all others for you. If Gus gets the old tin tack, we all hope his replacement can turn things around. But it won't be on the back of your tirades. Still, at least we won't have to hear how you're not answering his calls again. And I fear for the next CEO.

gutterfax wrote: It's nothing like that....read my signature for an example of their work...I am simply stating FACTS.... You're forgetting I was mod of that board for a while. If you didn't agree with them you were clearly a Union lover or League hater. Very black and white. A bit like, if people don't agree with everything you say, we must be defending Gus or are apologists. gutterfax wrote: ...to me, this is another way of saying it's not Gus's fault. Sorry, but it is. He has had the 9 of the 10lowest attendances of all time on his watch....whose fault is it if not the guy tasked with increasing crowds? Fine. I'm sure the stuff being served on the pitch may have some contribution as to why people didn't renew their season tickets over the last few years though. But if it's simply all Gus's fault. Fine. gutterfax wrote: So basically, you're saying that there's no point in highlighting the failures of the CEO because weall already know than and nothing's going to change? Tell you what......something has changed.....lessand less people attend London Broncos RL games at every turn.......I seriously doubt that their will be a team in SL come the 2015 Season...but hey ho,let's all stay quiet and let the club be destoyed Am I saying that? Am I? Really? Where? Or is it your interpretation? Very black and white thinking again and a very predictable reply. We know the failings. You post them everyday. We know. We all don't feel the need to post on this forum very often indeed about how bad an individual is at the club. gutterfax wrote: The stuff written about Gus isn't personal....I have said he's probably a really nice bloke, but professionally, he's killing the club. I am not "ganging up" on anyone....I have always called it as I've seen it and spoken from the heart...it just so happens that the current CEO is overseeing the darkest and most unprofessional period in the SL Clubs lifetime. Sorry GF. Anyone that comes on here intimating our CEO cops it up the gary from Quins or suggests we are to visualise him gobbling off the boss. Really? I'm wondering what you deem is personal then? Here's a reminder of only two of your NON-personal comments. viewtopic.php?f=27&t=547176&tsmp=1365930706&start=60 viewtopic.php?f=27&t=547176&tsmp=1365930914&start=110 As I said. The way you post and the repetitive content, some of which has contained abuse, has had myself and maybe others losing compassion for your arguments or indeed the motivation to support what you say. All this despite our despair for the club. You used to make sense, we used to listen, sit back and realise. But lately it's become some sort of mission above all others for you. If Gus gets the old tin tack, we all hope his replacement can turn things around. But it won't be on the back of your tirades. Still, at least we won't have to hear how you're not answering his calls again. And I fear for the next CEO.

Re: CC Draw Fev at home! : Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:04 am  

Surely all Bronquins CEO's have been as ineffective as the current one? After all, none of them were able to convince Gutters to stump up the money for a season ticket.