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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:38 pm  
There's very little goes up in Barnet about the football club, they used to have a club shop on the high street but that is now a sandwich shop, you'd barely know they were there at all when they were based at Underhill. I wouldn't expect to see much promotion and advertising, that neck of the woods could be difficult too (Edgware). To the north is a fairly well off Jewish area, West is Asian and South & East is Afro/Caribbean. I know it seems like I'm stereotyping but we tend to attract people not in those demographics generally.
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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:58 pm  
I've had a relatively comprehensive read of materials in the public domain, particularly the documentation around what the Hive can and cannot be used for and planning permission rules.

It looks like there is no opportunity to increase the maximum crowd size beyond the existing fixed total which is a tickle under 5200. If one area increases in size, a corresponding area must decrease in size.

The fundamentals are that there is planning permission to play sports at the Stadium and there is seemingly no barriers around number of games or what type of sports are played on the ground. Basically there are no restrictions in the existing documentation, save for a restriction on league two football, but I don't believe it would hold if legally challenged, as it would be improbable to justify now that there are already paid crowds etc and thus the principle has already been established.

The residents concerns are almost certainly around the impact on house price. Other factors such as parking, floodlights and traffic are really a petty inconvenience as only midweek fixtures could really be a bother and only then very occasionally. The Council did not initially bother doing exhaustive study of everyone nearby's possible view and now it seems they are trying to be troublesome by challenging any progress or slight variation of the plan with red herring's and throwing in a spanner in the works.

Kleanthous appears to be incrementally adding to the Stadium in a way in which it would be difficult to reasonably block at each stage so if he does not get e.g. new floodlights he can always ask later so I don't see this as an issue.

What I think is going on is that Kleanthous has insisted that a kind of deduplication exercise takes place at Broncos - so for example he has a Facilities Manager and so do Broncos - he will insist that the Broncos employee is removed.

Otherwise when he buys in he will have issues in removing them as the new owner. This would be at many levels including compensation, time taken and TUPE.

He would not want a straightforward liquidation and then to buy in because of the points deduction which would just about guarantee bottom spot for next year.

This I think we will see roles lost at the Broncos, mainly duplicate ones, roles changed at the Hive (which insist that staff also work for the Broncos) and then Kleanthous will become the primary owner, with Hughes secondary.

Thus I am optimistic for the future with this scheme in place; after all we would not make some employees redundant but all of them if we were to fold.

I think also there has been a degree of opportunistic behaviour from the Broncos in looking to shed dead wood without additional compensation by letting the club look like it is gone. I think the guys who came onto the field for the last home game were symbolically released, but the rest they are looking to keep like Cookie etc.

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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:14 pm  
Well it's all speculation at the moment. What I find interesting is the success the club has had keeping things under wraps and preventing any leaks of information. On the other hand, maybe there's no information to leak!
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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:19 pm  
I think the nuts and bolts have leaked out. Its what is agreed that we are waiting to hear.
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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:55 pm  
Seems to be getting closer to completion, at times like this, it is completely correct in business to keep matters private.
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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:10 pm  
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... will the club settle in Barnet and make ties within the local community...


Again, it's not Barnet!

But lets hope so.
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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:33 pm  
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What I think is going on is that Kleanthous has insisted that a kind of deduplication exercise takes place at Broncos - so for example he has a Facilities Manager and so do Broncos - he will insist that the Broncos employee is removed.


If that is the case, let's hope he already has a CEO :PRAY:
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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:02 pm  
Barnet use a lot of interns, I know that as gospel. A friend of mine was in the same course at Uni as a lad who got an internship working at Barnet as a performance analyst. How can this work with two sides?
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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:12 pm  
Teaser from Ian Ramsdale on twitter : ‏@ianramsdale
Have discovered a few more details about the London Broncos situation. I'll update what I know in my #RLDS podcast. Publishing later.
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Re: Our Future - 2 weeks til we know : Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:51 pm  
On personal (and professional) note, I have started to build a demographic report and marketing plan based on us being at the Hive for a minimum of 10 years As with all my OPUS, I am budgeting for a zero marketing spend and the utilisation of friendly resources.

As such, I'd be keen to hear if any of the old volunteers/new fans would be happy to give up a couple of hours here and there midweek between January-August next year?
Also, if anyone would be prepared to do some data capture and give advice to "new fans" as well as doing an exit poll on match day.

I am fully aware of the shoddy way in which previous incarnations of fan assistance has been treated and will look to ensure that any assistance is most assuredly appreciated in full.

If anyone here has any ideas with regard to how to gorilla market the club with the #1 aim of getting and keeping fans, please PM them to me. I will make sure you are credited with any ideas I use.....I am loathe to post another 20 point plan and have it totally ignored by those who think they know better, so please, do PM these to me rather than us randomly suggest stuff which soon gets lost in the ether.

Wire-quin...I've already sourced some roundabouts and a decent florists so you can keep your powder dry my son :SUBMISSION:
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