Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:18 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

In two threads you say Bribe. Seriously mate?

GO ON......shake the moderators tree again

The Landlord of the London Broncos, who receives rent from the club for access to office space, as well as 100% of the ticket and other match-day revenue in return for us having his ground for the day IS IN RECEIPT OF FUNDS DIRECTLY FROM THE RFL TO PROMOTE AND MARKET THE GAMES FROM WHICH HE RECEIVES 100% OF THE REVENUE.

If Bribe isn't the right word, I am happy to use "incentive"

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:02 am  

gutterfax wrote:

GO ON......shake the moderators tree again

The Landlord of the London Broncos, who receives rent from the club for access to office space, as well as 100% of the ticket and other match-day revenue in return for us having his ground for the day IS IN RECEIPT OF FUNDS DIRECTLY FROM THE RFL TO PROMOTE AND MARKET THE GAMES FROM WHICH HE RECEIVES 100% OF THE REVENUE.

If Bribe isn't the right word, I am happy to use "incentive"

Nothing to do with Mods. So you're yet wrong again. You post away what you like.

Just be careful you don't put yourself up for libel or the like mate that's all. You get things in your mind and don't let them go.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:58 am  

To have a successful libel action at Law, you need to prove, amongst other things, that your reputation has been damaged.
Therefore you need to have a good reputation to lose. QED?

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:48 am  

As far as I can tell money has been spent on marketing, with full page spreads in local papers and leaflets for both Barnet and Broncos. That Broncos are at the hive has had good press and local tv coverage but crowds are poor. GF is right to ask how this money was/ will be spent but without having any idea of how much money was provided to the hive or evidence that the hive have not spent the money on its intended purpose then I find it hard to claim its a bribe. Was it an enticement to ensure the deal happened? Of cause it was, who benefits if the money spent pays off? Everyone involved, but most especially the fans and the reputation of RL in london. No one benefits from it's failure to attract fans. GF is only turning his guns on this money as the argument that loads of people would pay to go and see Broncos at the Hive has fallen flat and no longer supports his theory that TK has been given a license to print money. That the Hive is closing sections of the stadia to cut costs is a clear indication to me that the Broncos at the Hive is not a money spinner.

So what do you do? Spend a fortune on marketing and get next to nothing back or wait until you have some results on the pitch and a sellable product. Lets be honest about this, most Bronco fans think their team are a dead duck so why should non fans be interested and going to see a team get battered is not a good advert to get them coming back. Giving away free
tickets has a limited benefit and generally devalues the product.

Bottom line is the move to the Hive has not proved as attractive to fans as those brokering the deal had hoped and building a new support base will not happen overnight. Whether the numbers eventually prove enough to make broncos viable is doubtful, I doubt anyone will be spending big on marketing as you are all shouting for as recent history has shown diminishing returns.
I'm sure there are those saying we should've stayed at the Stoop but the deal on the table was Hive or nothing. I get the impression that a fair number would've preferred the later.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:59 am  

If TK has spent the money provided on promoting Broncos we can't complain if he doesn't spend a penny more. He's a businessman, we get that. Most of us aren't local and haven't seen any evidence of marketing.

Re free tickets. I'd usually agree but if the marketing budget is already spent then it's the only option. We clearly have three shocking gates looming. Get free tickets out for them. None for the next game along and see if there is a gain. If not there's no point repeating it and the number crunchers can start working out whether we are viable in the Championship or whether Bradford is our last ever game.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:08 am  

I go on the 'Terraces closed' thread and get big font ranting about Barnet FC's 'bribe' and marketing and etc etc. I wearily close the thread and open one about avoiding relegation. What do I find....? The exact same conversation. By the same person. With the same facts and figures. How to kill a forum...

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:24 pm  

You need to sell something, if the results aren't great you have to sell the vision, the future....or you could sell nothing, close the terraces and make less and less money. Pathetic.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:03 pm  

Tre Cool wrote:

You need to sell something, if the results aren't great you have to sell the vision, the future....or you could sell nothing, close the terraces and make less and less money. Pathetic.

But it matters not a jot to the Broncos in financial terms if there are 50 or 5000 fans.

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:11 pm  

Rascal Bongo Stork wrote:

I go on the 'Terraces closed' thread and get big font ranting about Barnet FC's 'bribe' and marketing and etc etc. I wearily close the thread and open one about avoiding relegation. What do I find....? The exact same conversation. By the same person. With the same facts and figures. How to kill a forum...

I was asked to explain my use of the word bribe........if you want to see happy threads go on the castleford forum

Re: Avoiding relegation : Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:54 pm  

Give us a D R O N E