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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:00 pm  
When you look at the side we put out you could note that there are some possibly stronger alternatives to come down the line e.g.

Duckworth or Solomona rather than O'Callaghan
Farrar rather than Gigot
Greenwood rather than Wicks
Slyney rather than Lovell
Dollapi rather than Kransniqi

What led to the huge margin was that the opposition were on most plays making about twice as much distance on their attacking runs, probably about 10 metres rather than 5 metres. They were starting sets near our half way line and we were bringing them down, but they were starting the last play within our 20 metre zone.

They must have chipped the ball over our line at least 5 times for tries by simply out-jumping us with defenders in reach of the ball close to the tryline and putting the ball down.

Two more tries were due to us resting after a penalty was conceded and an individual error dropping the ball within our own try area.

Several other plays were really good ones where they ran the ball and we just weren't at the races due to the high skill level of Brown; tries that were hard to defend against. Widnes have a settled team and they were good plays that we can't easily get ready for. We can't let any playmaker have so much time in future that is for sure.

They weren't running in tries from all over the field which is at least one small relief I suppose.

We look desperate for a bit more size and if not we'll need to be more expansive than sending in a medium sized man 'one up' against a bigger line if we are to compete more in the next game.

We need to also be determined to catch the ball when chipped over and to fall forward over our own tryline rather than surrendering in goal in the remaining games.

Crikey, 10 hours on the road, it seemed like a long trip that is for sure but it is nothing compared to the 8 or 9 hours one way on a Friday night I've done in the past, so I will have to get used to the trips again.
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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:07 pm  
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Dollapi rather than Kransniqi


We need 'em both. They are the two best props we have - indeed two of the better props in the comp.
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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:20 pm  
I've only seen the tries on Sky but some of them were awful defensively. As Mark says, chips over the top where we didn't even leave the ground to contest the ball in the air...players standing still in defence if the ptb was within 5m of the line and not even attempting a tackle. Very poor, skill is one thing that takes time to work on, but effort and fitness must be sorted very quickly or it will be a very long season.
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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:21 pm  
Hard to judge anything from the highlights but what struck me was the complete lack of tackles being made by LB, lots of running around and flapping of arms but naff all else. Some of the tries were pathetically soft.
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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:42 pm  
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Hard to judge anything from the highlights but what struck me was the complete lack of tackles being made by LB, lots of running around and flapping of arms but naff all else. Some of the tries were pathetically soft.


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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:56 pm  
Strangely, our tackle success rate was pretty good, compared to other teams and Broncos efforts last year (out of 371, we missed 26, so a success rate of around 93%).

Alex Foster did well...made 42 tackles and missed none (Cook made 42 also).

Think our main problems lie elsewhere.

(Probably Gus, before anyone else says it!)
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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:58 pm  
It seems our main problem was defending inside our own 20m then. I'm sure TR can fix that.
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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:06 pm  
Tre Cool wrote:
It seems our main problem was defending inside our own 20m then. I'm sure TR can fix that.


No sign of it last season.
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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:11 pm  
Dan Stains woz God wrote:
Strangely, our tackle success rate was pretty good, compared to other teams and Broncos efforts last year (out of 371, we missed 26, so a success rate of around 93%).

Alex Foster did well...made 42 tackles and missed none (Cook made 42 also).

Think our main problems lie elsewhere.

(Probably Gus, before anyone else says it!)


Thanks Stato, I stand corrected...........just did not come across that way in the highlights.
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Re: v WIDNES (a) : Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:56 pm  
I think the thing with the stats is that they will show that we were making the tackle most of the time and especially on the first five plays.

The highlights will make us look terrible rather than just terrible on the sixth tackle that is for sure.

The reality of the game is that we were losing the collision and that we were kind of desperately hanging on to a more powerful player so technically making the tackle but then either allowing a quick play the ball or conceding a penalty.

The stats will show also that we were driving forward with the ball and completing our sets at a relatively high completion rate.

But they will not show that virtually all the plays were a simple one up pass from the ruck which led ultimately to guys running into three or bigger blokes and taking an age to play the ball. When we did get the ball a bit wider from the ruck the excellent Caton-Brown did real damage.
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