Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:06 pm  

markrammond wrote:

It is indisputable that David Hughes has taken us to the brink twice in the past five years.

Not a lot gets past you does it?

markrammond wrote:

The first time was when he wanted shut of Lenagan as a non-investing majority shareholder. I don't remember anyone claiming it was Paul Blanchard's fault and I don't remember David getting dog's abuse either.

Actually, Blanchard wasn't with us long enough to be responsible for that farce, Hughes used the issue to try and muster financial assistance from the RFL and I blamed both him and the short sightedness of the RFL decision to make Lenegan step back in the first place. Hughes did NOTHING, NADA, LESS THAN NIL to attract NEW investors once Lenegans were given up and as a result, he dropped more an more money into the club with absolutely no idea of how to use this "investment" to build for the future. I said as much at the time!

markrammond wrote:

The second time was when he wanted shut of us being based at Harlequins Rugby Union Club.

I have seen the company accounts in full for the seasons 2008-2012 and I know how much the Stoop was costing us. The "cost"of the stoop is a red herring as it was a public statement from MacKay/Hughes that said the local residents weren't interested in us........you can imagine my response to that lie.

markrammond wrote:

This time round there was sustained criticism from several supporters which started with the mention of Gillingham and re-emerged time and time again as the season went on. But this time the criticism manifested from concern to what I would describe as snide remarks to downright bullying and trolling.

Absolute rubbish. This is a public forum and is moderated by its owners, who would cut off any sign of bullying immediately if it occurred. What happened was that a great deal of fans on here, other boards and Facebook made it abundantly clear that Gillingham was a non starter for them. One poster from the Gillingham area was gobsmacked at the arrogance of the club when dealing with the situation in Kent. Remember Mark, this was 6 months after the rebrand which had failed miserably...Gus, who had form before he joined us, Now had UBER FORM with us.

markrammond wrote:

Gus has taken more abuse than anyone has a right to give and this has spread to anyone whose posts included anything positive. It is of no surprise that this has led to the opposite of what was wanted e.g. less communication rather than more, less fans forums, less different posters on the board rather than more etc.

Insanity You are saying that the "so called bullying" on the internet is directly linked to the lack of communications from the club? Are you off your loving head or have you been told this? Either way, it's absolute poop, because Gus was more than happy to text me regularly throughout the whole sorry saga and as I said to him, he would have been as wise to simply tweet his messages to everyone rather than just me (and PP apparently)

markrammond wrote:

I have lost count of the number of posts which are merely a cut and paste of comments with a lot of derogatory statements and statistical "facts" under them.

Stop counting them!

markrammond wrote:

I do not want us to lose either David Hughes

He's leaving us......sad to say, he will have flushed both 14 million of his money and 1 perfectly serviceable RL club down the crapper when he goes, but you blame the internet musings of a few fans...or is it just me now?

markrammond wrote:

and I do not want the ill will to be read as representative of London Broncos as a whole.

Bollox......ERROR. WRONG RAMMO!

markrammond wrote:

I would call on the moderators to consider a final warning appropriate for trolls with a permanent ban to follow.

Buy your own server space, set up your own forums, invite me to join, then ban me. Until then, love OFF!

markrammond wrote:

We must drive away the malignant if they are not to spread.

When it comes to Driving Away, can I suggest you call Sir David and Mackay. They'll tell you how to drive stuff away.....specifically 85% of ST holders and now 70% of fans since the IL fiasco you mentioned above.

Bloody hell........it's almost like Gus emailed you that and you cut and pasted it into your post

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:13 pm  

jaybs wrote:

here at RLFans when the London forum was started there was a real warm united feeling

Back when we had a club that we felt part of you mean?
Can I suggest you chip in with the Journo Mark and buy your own servers, set upon your own, invite me then ban me.....but until then, do one!

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:40 pm  

It's amazing that the club, and its staff, can behave the way they have to fans over the past five years and some people not only eat it up but criticise those who won't.

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:05 pm  

markrammond wrote:

but I do care about antagonistic people whose behaviour is frankly shameful and who disrupt the forum with an anti London Broncos agenda.

I could convincingly argue that your very presence at games is indicative of an Anti-London Broncos stance, given you are giving support to a regime that has by it's own admission made many mistakes across the board that have resulted in the denigration of the team, club and Business and whom by their current actions are continuing to destroy the club and business (the team is already destroyed beyond recognition of a SL outfit).

But I don't.

I don't consider myself qualified enough to advise people where to go, how to spend their money, what to think or where to convey their thoughts. I certainly don't have the audacity or arrogance to demand that other peoples opinions be quashed or censored by forum moderators.

No doubt you will be one of the happy band who will follow the club no matter where they play or what division they are in and Good on You for that .....unfortunately, as the attendance at Salford showed, you are an ever decreasing group who the club really doesn't give a tuppeny love about, as you no longer fund them by your attendance, there aren't enough of you to interest an investor and as you've already brought every mate you have to games over the last 18 seasons, you're not much good to them for marketing either!

Enjoy your season and stick me on ignore, but keep your fascist ideals about what is and isn't permitted on here to yourself!

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:40 pm  

Well said Mr Rammond, shameful fascist reference.

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:05 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

I could convincingly argue that your very presence at games is indicative of an Anti-London Broncos stance, given you are giving support to a regime that has by it's own admission made many mistakes across the board that have resulted in the denigration of the team, club and Business and whom by their current actions are continuing to destroy the club and business (the team is already destroyed beyond recognition of a SL outfit).

But I don't.

I don't consider myself qualified enough to advise people where to go, how to spend their money, what to think or where to convey their thoughts. I certainly don't have the audacity or arrogance to demand that other peoples opinions be quashed or censored by forum moderators.

No doubt you will be one of the happy band who will follow the club no matter where they play or what division they are in and Good on You for that .....unfortunately, as the attendance at Salford showed, you are an ever decreasing group who the club really doesn't give a tuppeny love about, as you no longer fund them by your attendance, there aren't enough of you to interest an investor and as you've already brought every mate you have to games over the last 18 seasons, you're not much good to them for marketing either!

Enjoy your season and stick me on ignore, but keep your fascist ideals about what is and isn't permitted on here to yourself!

So you hate the club, fans and management and dont condone supporting the team......so wtf are you doing on here every day?

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:26 pm  

Tre Cool wrote:

So you hate the club, fans and management and dont condone supporting the team......so wtf are you doing on here every day?

where did I say that?

....I simply said that everyone is entitled to follow the team in any way they desire and it is not mine or anyone else right to impose their ways on others nor is it valid to try to silence posters who you don't agree with.

I have not suggested anyone steer clear of the Hive.....nor have I said that people shouldn't support the club. No matter how many times you allude to this, it still won't make this fact any less factual!

Personally, rather than sit back as we are driven over a cliff, I prefer to scream at the driver......stick your fingers in your ears if you don't like the noise!

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:33 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

where did I say that?

....I simply said that everyone is entitled to follow the team in any way they desire and it is not mine or anyone else right to impose their ways on others nor is it valid to try to silence posters who you don't agree with.

I have not suggested anyone steer clear of the Hive.....nor have I said that people shouldn't support the club. No matter how many times you allude to this, it still won't make this fact any less factual!

Personally, rather than sit back as we are driven over a cliff, I prefer to scream at the driver......stick your fingers in your ears if you don't like the noise!

A slap stops people screaming.
Better than fingers in ears

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:43 pm  

Thecranewife wrote:

Well said Mr Rammond,

Insightful as ever....as well as non-contributory as usual.

Thecranewife wrote:

shameful fascist reference.

...actually, a very valid comparison. You, being an avid follower of mine, will note that I do not take it upon myself to deem what is worthy of being posted here and what is not. I am a great believer in free speech. The request for censor from Mr Rammond to the moderators is a form of fascism.....if I'd referred to a particular type of fascism or a date perhaps, then maybe you could take offence, but as fascism is a political doctrine, to compare someone's stance to it is not shameful at all.

Re: Message from David Hughes.. : Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:18 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

fascism is a political doctrine

As noted former footballer & office wrecker Paolo Di Canio attests.