Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:03 pm  

The Changing Man wrote:

Us and them now is it?
And yet the constant denial of a clique........lol

But you have your own clique - don't you ? Anti DH, anti every decision the Broncos make, never talk about the actual on the field clique ?

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:19 pm  

Exiled down south wrote:

How many posters would you be able to engage with Gary? Would the second rule be positive posts only?
Have you not seen whats happening in the Labour party? comrades, movements etc. Get with it, policy, ideas etc are to be debated whether you agree or otherwise.

On second thoughts lets get rid of Barnaby

Granted debate - views from all sides, embraced, disregarded, countered, fresh new ideas, ways of thinking. Not the tired jaundiced bull that Barnaby and his acolytes spout turning more or less every thread into a repeat. Funny though not one of them ever comment on the on field, why is that ? Said it before, all of them empty vessels.

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:32 pm  

PC PLUM Instead of aiming insults perhaps check the Batley thread at 7:57 Sunday evening and this one at 8;19 Saturday. You ready to answer the question yet ?

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:59 pm  

pronto wrote:

PC PLUM Instead of aiming insults perhaps check the Batley thread at 7:57 Sunday evening and this one at 8;19 Saturday. You ready to answer the question yet ?

Didnt have you down as one of the acolytes ! Apols missed your question, no we are not in a better position by any reference BUT I live in hope that perhaps the club will start to recreate the spirit of those times and if they do, little by little there will be improvement. I've made my thoughts clear on Ealing on here previously but at the end of the day no end of moaning or threatening to never go again is going to make a jot of difference.

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:14 pm  

PC Plum wrote:

threatening to never go again

I'll go again if I can blag tickets. My guess is loads of freebies will be on offer.

I'm just not helping to pay for a madman's folly.

Let him foot the bill for his stupidity & arrogance.

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:47 pm  

Oddly enough, we might actually have something worth watching next season.

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:03 pm  

Cowgirl Nostalgist wrote:

I'll go again if I can blag tickets. My guess is loads of freebies will be on offer.

I'm just not helping to pay for a madman's folly.

Let him foot the bill for his stupidity & arrogance.

We all go for differing reasons but no matter what we do or dont pay or what we feel about the history, the man, etc, bums on seats, atmosphere and supporting the team ..... and wanting to come back again is what fundamentally matters

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:01 pm  

BroncOnIon wrote:

I asked in a post a week or so ago for identification of members of the alleged clique. Still waiting for an answer

In a nutshell, those that spend more time on here whining about my negativity than they do discussing anything else. Here's one now.....

PC Plum wrote:

Granted debate - views from all sides, embraced, disregarded, countered, fresh new ideas, ways of thinking. Not the tired jaundiced bull that Barnaby and his acolytes spout turning more or less every thread into a repeat. Funny though not one of them ever comment on the on field, why is that ? Said it before, all of them empty vessels.

Let's look at this post that was hot on the heels of an appeal to the moderators of these boards to create another forum where only negatives were allowed, thus freeing up this forum for Plum and his buddies Michael and Jaybs.

I debated the facts as they are in the hope that we will learn from our mistakes. I wont swallow anything that the club spout hook line and sinker, but instead look at anything and everything with a good amount of my mind on the past.

Tired and Jaundiced Bull?

I posted the most comprehensive description of the new facilities and the surrounding area including transport links when the members of the clique were still in denial that we were moving. In that post I even noted that the train station was closed on Sunday, yet the club didn't know this when it was pointed out at the forum.....I'm on the other side of the planet for christs sake! The club don't know what they are doing and are YET AGAIN making it up as they go along, with you know who writing cheques and everyone gleefully pocketing the dosh.

At the fans forum, the club made a big thing of saying that Trailfiners own the ground (they don't a charitable trust does) and not the Union side and that the Hive wasn't a good deal. Hands up who said in 2013 the Hive was a bad deal and hands up members of the clique who said I should "shut up"? Oh, I did also point out in the comprehensive coverage of our new ground that it was owned by a charitable trust. Again, not a popular view, but accurate none the less.

Then there' commenting "on the field". I can comment on the match reports, the video highlights and the smattering of radio I can get............oh and the results against part timers, but prefer to leave that to those who were there. In 13 years on these boards I have rarely commented on the "game", but instead the business side of the club. Because my message isn't rainbows and ponies, some get "angst", but hey ho....when I started we were on 4k and making SL play-offs. And yes......that is I told you so.

Then there's the comment that "plans are in place" to extend the stadium(sic) by 5 or 10k........no planning or pre-planning applications have been made to date.....hands up who believes that if we were promoted in 2016 we'd be in SL at ETF Ealing in 2017? Planning would take over 12 months and as far as I can glean from the internet, there has been no mention of this "development" anywhere in print other than in the notes from the fans forum. David Hughes has now said this on video and at the forum......sorry, but given his track record, hands up who believes him?

Remember, The Hive was "the best decision for the club" (DH 2013)

The acting CEO has declared that existing and lapsed fans are key to us growing......bugger me, if only someone had thought of that 13 years ago. Not sure how much he gets paid, but I have no doubt DH thinks he's getting VFM. The New Sales and Marketing person who will do no marketing but will cold call local businesses, has the toughest job I can think of, trying to make 250 fans standing around a fenced ground sound like a good "route to market".

I'll leave you with this thought. David Hughes claimed at the forum that Wigan's "London Reach" wasn't as big as Wigan made out.....if you want proof that he hasn't a clue, try this factoid.

19 Seasons in SL and 249 "home" games saw an average of 3,538 fans per game. Wigans average was 5,008......are you telling me that Wigan brought down and extra 1,500 compared to say Wire (3,500)...or did a fair number of ex-pat Wiganers living in London attend? Hughes is clueless and he's now delusional.....taking to snide remarks about a bigger and better run club!

The fact remains that whilst the club is in the hands of the current owner, the club will never prosper. All he wants is to take his seat on match day.

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:27 pm  

The Changing Man wrote:

In a nutshell, those that spend more time on here whining about my negativity than they do discussing anything else. Here's one now.....

Well done, you've identified a clique with one member.

Doesn't that make all of us, even you, a clique by your definition?

Hey, I'm a clique! Never thought of myself that way before.

To quote our long standing and esteemed member Homer

It's an easy cop out phrase when ones opinion is challenged

Re: LBSA Fans Forum - Thursday September 10th : Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:33 pm  

The Changing Man wrote:

In a nutshell, those that spend more time on here whining about my negativity than they do discussing anything else. Here's one now.....
Let's look at this post that was hot on the heels of an appeal to the moderators of these boards to create another forum where only negatives were allowed, thus freeing up this forum for Plum and his buddies Michael and Jaybs.

I debated the facts as they are in the hope that we will learn from our mistakes. I wont swallow anything that the club spout hook line and sinker, but instead look at anything and everything with a good amount of my mind on the past.

Tired and Jaundiced Bull?

I posted the most comprehensive description of the new facilities and the surrounding area including transport links when the members of the clique were still in denial that we were moving. In that post I even noted that the train station was closed on Sunday, yet the club didn't know this when it was pointed out at the forum.....I'm on the other side of the planet for christs sake! The club don't know what they are doing and are YET AGAIN making it up as they go along, with you know who writing cheques and everyone gleefully pocketing the dosh.

At the fans forum, the club made a big thing of saying that Trailfiners own the ground (they don't a charitable trust does) and not the Union side and that the Hive wasn't a good deal. Hands up who said in 2013 the Hive was a bad deal and hands up members of the clique who said I should "shut up"? Oh, I did also point out in the comprehensive coverage of our new ground that it was owned by a charitable trust. Again, not a popular view, but accurate none the less.

Then there' commenting "on the field". I can comment on the match reports, the video highlights and the smattering of radio I can get............oh and the results against part timers, but prefer to leave that to those who were there. In 13 years on these boards I have rarely commented on the "game", but instead the business side of the club. Because my message isn't rainbows and ponies, some get "angst", but hey ho....when I started we were on 4k and making SL play-offs. And yes......that is I told you so.

Then there's the comment that "plans are in place" to extend the stadium(sic) by 5 or 10k........no planning or pre-planning applications have been made to date.....hands up who believes that if we were promoted in 2016 we'd be in SL at ETF Ealing in 2017? Planning would take over 12 months and as far as I can glean from the internet, there has been no mention of this "development" anywhere in print other than in the notes from the fans forum. David Hughes has now said this on video and at the forum......sorry, but given his track record, hands up who believes him?

Remember, The Hive was "the best decision for the club" (DH 2013)

The acting CEO has declared that existing and lapsed fans are key to us growing......bugger me, if only someone had thought of that 13 years ago. Not sure how much he gets paid, but I have no doubt DH thinks he's getting VFM. The New Sales and Marketing person who will do no marketing but will cold call local businesses, has the toughest job I can think of, trying to make 250 fans standing around a fenced ground sound like a good "route to market".

I'll leave you with this thought. David Hughes claimed at the forum that Wigan's "London Reach" wasn't as big as Wigan made out.....if you want proof that he hasn't a clue, try this factoid.

19 Seasons in SL and 249 "home" games saw an average of 3,538 fans per game. Wigans average was 5,008......are you telling me that Wigan brought down and extra 1,500 compared to say Wire (3,500)...or did a fair number of ex-pat Wiganers living in London attend? Hughes is clueless and he's now delusional.....taking to snide remarks about a bigger and better run club!

The fact remains that whilst the club is in the hands of the current owner, the club will never prosper. All he wants is to take his seat on match day.

As much as you might want to, it's hard to disagree with the points raised. He was right.