: Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:08 pm  

[/b] according to David Hughes we are towards the upper limits fo the salary cap.


His signings performances against what we let go- Mclinden etc That's always a matter of personal opinion. And the only opinions that matter is that of the directors, who last year gave him a 3 year deal. Sport is full of players that got away and @ Quins we'll be no different.[/quote]

If we are indeed towards the upper limit of the salary cap then i would seriously question the value of the players he has signed/retained subject to the fact that he cannot change the personnel under less than 3 years due to being locked into contracts.
Effectively we are saying we are paying the same salaries as Saints, Leeds, Wigan etc. and have a much poorer quality of team.

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:13 pm  

Snoopy wrote:

If we are indeed towards the upper limit of the salary cap [/b]then i would seriously question the value of the players he has signed/retained subject to the fact that he cannot change the personnel under less than 3 years due to being locked into contracts.
Effectively we are saying we are paying the same salaries as Saints, Leeds, Wigan etc. and have a much poorer quality of team.

I don't think it's as simple as that. I would imagine bigger clubs are able to offer other incentives outside the salary cap such as a car and accommodation, or at least subsidies in those areas. It remains more expensive to live and work in London, and most existing SL players will already live along the M62 corridor and won't necessarily need to relocate to join another northern club.

Say for instance Warrington or Wigan made an offer for Richie Myler, and Quins offered him the same salary - would he seriously consider coming to join us right now? I doubt it. If we were already an established top 4 club with five figure crowds it might be different though. The whole low attendances/lower half of the table position is a vicious circle and won't be easy to break.

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:26 pm  

Prince of Denmark wrote:

We won two thirds of our matches up to the current slump (always winning the next league match after each of our first five defeats) so why would we be so unlikely to win some games with most of the missing players back in the side now? (Especially as none the remaining fixtures after this weekend are against teams in the top 4 and everyone else seems to be much of a muchness.)

Because we took advantage of teams playing badly. The teams were beat have come on leaps and bounds and we have gone nowhere. For example, I can't see Cas playing anywhere nearly as badly as they did at The Jungle. Rangi Chase had a shocker - he has come on miles and is a decent player now.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:22 am  

Never mind being sacked.

BM has never hidden his true feelings (see Catalans at MM last year) and if we continue on the losing path and/or missing the 8, I can see him walking.

He knows another SL side would snap him up and if he's trying his damnedest and the players aren't turning up why should he bother?

On the flip side it could be his coaching that is causing this collapse. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:46 am  

Dave Lister wrote:

Because we took advantage of teams playing badly. The teams were beat have come on leaps and bounds and we have gone nowhere. For example, I can't see Cas playing anywhere nearly as badly as they did at The Jungle. Rangi Chase had a shocker - he has come on miles and is a decent player now.

Speaking as a neutral, I think you're being a little unfair to your lads. You don't have a big squad so when your key playmakers are injured you are stuck. You were playing some great rugby league when your playmakers were playing. It is not surprising that you have struggled without them given the depth of your squad. But in their absence your players have, on the whole, worked really hard, which is to their credit. I think on Saturday they were a bit thrown by having at least one of your players back - that disrupts play. By the second half they had adjusted and you had two of your playmakers on the park. Things will get better as they return, I'm sure of that.