Re: Ealing is the new venue : Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:14 pm  

Perry wrote: Which makes you wonder why he started foaming at the mouth when I asked if this was the case. He's even made my question part of his sig, though I have not the slightest idea why. Because my dear chap, you were all over me like the proverbial rash when claiming that Trailfinders was not in a nice area, but in fact in next to a nasty estate and announcing that my "error" was down to me "not being there" so to speak. As I have since pointed out, I was well aware that the estate was across the railway tracks from the ground, making it an irrelevance when considering the house prices on Vallis Way are 740k according to Zoopla...here's a 2 bed maisonette that went for 425k 2 months ago...a 350 meter walk to the ground! http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=7231084&sale=1443649&country=england So, the reason your question regarding Plough Lane tickled me so, was the irony that I knew there were houses on Plough Lane.........even from 12,000 miles away highlighting the reality that when dealing in the realm of facts, then you really don't have to "be there" to have a valid opinion........regardless of what you'd like to think. By the way...here's some more info on that nasty estate that so concerned you. http://www.ealing.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=200200&documentID=371&CookiesAccepted=1 HTH...

Perry wrote: Which makes you wonder why he started foaming at the mouth when I asked if this was the case. He's even made my question part of his sig, though I have not the slightest idea why. Because my dear chap, you were all over me like the proverbial rash when claiming that Trailfinders was not in a nice area, but in fact in next to a nasty estate and announcing that my "error" was down to me "not being there" so to speak. As I have since pointed out, I was well aware that the estate was across the railway tracks from the ground, making it an irrelevance when considering the house prices on Vallis Way are 740k according to Zoopla...here's a 2 bed maisonette that went for 425k 2 months ago...a 350 meter walk to the ground! http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=7231084&sale=1443649&country=england So, the reason your question regarding Plough Lane tickled me so, was the irony that I knew there were houses on Plough Lane.........even from 12,000 miles away highlighting the reality that when dealing in the realm of facts, then you really don't have to "be there" to have a valid opinion........regardless of what you'd like to think. By the way...here's some more info on that nasty estate that so concerned you. http://www.ealing.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=200200&documentID=371&CookiesAccepted=1 HTH...

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:14 pm  

Jim Pooley wrote:

...the reason your question regarding Plough Lane tickled me so, was the irony that I knew there were houses on Plough Lane.........even from 12,000 miles away...

So you had time to look it up, well done. I could have done the same, I suppose I could've done what you do sometimes, state it as fact without checking. But I thought i'd ask it as a question because , well you know, it's a forum and I was sure other people would be able to confirm if I was correct. And they did. You're the only one who went on the attack.

I mentioned your remoteness when you tried to claim knowledge of what happened on match day. Why don't you google "Did Joey Grima encourage players to talk to the fans after the game?" and see how many results you get.
Not everything can be looked up on a search engine.

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:35 pm  

Bostwick wrote:

The Trailfinders ground is owned by The Mike Gooley Trailfinders Charity. As such I doubt that The Broncos are buying in. I assume they are just renting the pitch.
So it is hardly a giant leap forward for the club.

This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own.
Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.

If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?

Forlorn hope I know...

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:51 pm  

Perry wrote: You're the only one who went on the attack. I'd beg to differ. Perry wrote: Belying your remoteness again. It's next to one of the worst estates in west London. And for the record, you'd specifically have to go out of your way to cross the estate to get to the ground. It's over the railway lines and masked by a long line of very high trees......and as I have already shown, is being regenerated. Interesting that you question my accuracy and ability to identify facts and figures from across the world but you yourself are still unsure of developments just down the road? Perry wrote: I thought Plough Lane had houses built on it? can I suggest a visit to www.google.com? Back on thread. Perry wrote: This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own. Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold. If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home? Forlorn hope I know... As I pointed out earlier, there is a plot of land behind the main pitch towards Vallis Way that appears to have only a handful of houses who would be "adversely" affected by a stand on that side of the pitch. There is a school/special school and also the residents of Hathaway Gardens and Claremont Rd to consider too not to mention all the surrounding streets that could be affected by increased traffic on match day etc. As I have also pointed out, there is NO current planning applications in with Ealing Council....who are a Labour Council and the bloke that owns Trailfinders (and set up the charitable trust) is a Tory funder to the tune of 7 figure donations.......so if Hughes is agreeing to contribute to a new stand/development, it may well be some years off, as planning permission doesn't happen quickly in London! I've also previously posted that previous developments such as the cricket pavilion (like for like replacement) floodlights and the liquor licence were all objected to by local residenst.....

Perry wrote: You're the only one who went on the attack. I'd beg to differ. Perry wrote: Belying your remoteness again. It's next to one of the worst estates in west London. And for the record, you'd specifically have to go out of your way to cross the estate to get to the ground. It's over the railway lines and masked by a long line of very high trees......and as I have already shown, is being regenerated. Interesting that you question my accuracy and ability to identify facts and figures from across the world but you yourself are still unsure of developments just down the road? Perry wrote: I thought Plough Lane had houses built on it? can I suggest a visit to www.google.com? Back on thread. Perry wrote: This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own. Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold. If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home? Forlorn hope I know... As I pointed out earlier, there is a plot of land behind the main pitch towards Vallis Way that appears to have only a handful of houses who would be "adversely" affected by a stand on that side of the pitch. There is a school/special school and also the residents of Hathaway Gardens and Claremont Rd to consider too not to mention all the surrounding streets that could be affected by increased traffic on match day etc. As I have also pointed out, there is NO current planning applications in with Ealing Council....who are a Labour Council and the bloke that owns Trailfinders (and set up the charitable trust) is a Tory funder to the tune of 7 figure donations.......so if Hughes is agreeing to contribute to a new stand/development, it may well be some years off, as planning permission doesn't happen quickly in London! I've also previously posted that previous developments such as the cricket pavilion (like for like replacement) floodlights and the liquor licence were all objected to by local residenst.....

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:07 am  

Jim Pooley wrote:

Blah, blah, blah, self serving tosh, blah...

I said I thought Plough Lane had houses on it, and you went on the attack. The usual unneccessary personal stuff. Several posters have said I was correct. You accuse them of "not reading the thread" because they failed to agree with you. They read it alright, and called you out, but you're too egotistical to back away.
Why are you so narcissistic?

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:08 am  

Ten pages of rubbish! all about something that is still speculation!

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:26 am  

Perry wrote:

I said I thought Plough Lane had houses on it, and you went on the attack. The usual unneccessary personal stuff. Several posters have said I was correct. You accuse them of "not reading the thread" because they failed to agree with you. They read it alright, and called you out, but you're too egotistical to back away.
Why are you so narcissistic?

Are you really that slow?
1. You claimed that I was unable to comment on the location of the potential new ground because I live far away, but you were, even though your assessment was wrong and mine was correct.
2. You weren't sure of the development of plough lane, but I was....even from 12k miles away

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:28 am  

jaybs wrote:

Ten pages of rubbish! all about something that is still speculation!

Its not speculation...........it is a done deal.

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:56 am  

my god what a pathetic thread. No wonder quite a few don't come on here.

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:14 am  

When are the children going !!! Can't stand this forum.