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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:20 pm  
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Great article and it makes me proud to be a Rugby League man so I can't imagine how proud you Wiganers feel.



Not proud as such, more disappointed that these people are no longer in our game and are playing the other code.
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:25 pm  
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Not proud as such, more disappointed that these people are no longer in our game and are playing the other code.


Yeah, it sticks in the craw a little bit that Union is gaining the benefit of Edwards and Farrell's vast combined talent and experience rather than Rugby League. But something tells me that neither of those guys will be missed by anyone at Red Hall. After all, we've got great international coaching staff like James Lowes and Steve McNamara.
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:08 am  
Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy wrote:
As this one is actually about Wigan Rugby League, you'd be wrong.

Again.


The last one shouldn't have been locked. Don't do it again pls.
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:47 am  
Nick NJ wrote:
The last one shouldn't have been locked. Don't do it again pls.


No worries Boss. It won't happen again Gaffer. Sorry. :(
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:46 am  
I went to St John Fisher and the influence of Mr Mcleod can not be underestimated RL was everything at the school. There is no mention of Craig White another local lad who has worked with Edwards and some of the top RU teams. Stridgeon was involved in the "ball swapping" incident in the RU WC.
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:58 am  
I also attended Saint John Fisher school and I am not too comfortable with accrediting too much to McLeod. The feeder schools into Fisher gave the school a virtual monopoly - Saint Patricks, Saint Marys, Saint Johns, Sacred Heart and some from Saint Williams too. All coming from what was then a really competitive Junior Schools competition. There is actually a case regarding John Fisher as to how many players didn't make it because of too much rugby rather than the opposite. Without going into detail, McLeod was not a particularly popular teacher and certainly in my view not someone to put on a pedestal regarding the production of great rugby league players. I attended during the 70s. We didn't lose in the Wigan and District Schools in all the 5 years I was there and fared well in the Lancashire Shield losing to a team from Leigh. Of all that group of players, Ged Byrne was the only one to make in the professional game. The players from the school who have in more recent times made the grade (post Edwards) have also benefited from the local club scene in Wigan which to me is the real gold mine for rugby players in Wigan.
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:22 am  
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I also attended Saint John Fisher school and I am not too comfortable with accrediting too much to McLeod. The feeder schools into Fisher gave the school a virtual monopoly - Saint Patricks, Saint Marys, Saint Johns, Sacred Heart and some from Saint Williams too. All coming from what was then a really competitive Junior Schools competition. There is actually a case regarding John Fisher as to how many players didn't make it because of too much rugby rather than the opposite. Without going into detail, McLeod was not a particularly popular teacher and certainly in my view not someone to put on a pedestal regarding the production of great rugby league players. I attended during the 70s. We didn't lose in the Wigan and District Schools in all the 5 years I was there and fared well in the Lancashire Shield losing to a team from Leigh. Of all that group of players, Ged Byrne was the only one to make in the professional game. The players from the school who have in more recent times made the grade (post Edwards) have also benefited from the local club scene in Wigan which to me is the real gold mine for rugby players in Wigan.



You would have been the year above me at J Fisher if you are the same age as Ged Byrne, the year I was in had more luck in winning the National Comp. Only Mike Gregory went on to make it as pro but we did have Fran Clough who played RU for England. I think we were all encouraged to participate in sports and McLeod was for me a popular teacher. I think it all depends on your own experiences. It is a positive for the town that a school can have so many top players going through its doors. I do think that the draw of the school as a RL hot bed has led to youngsters being pushed there by parents. St Pats has the same draw with kids being ferried in by parents as they believe they need to be there to get noticed.
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:24 am  
They were wrong about the Galloways chunky steak pies I think the minced steak are far superior
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:29 am  
A surprisingly good read, but still slightly condescending towards Wigan and Rugby League in places. I'd expect that from the Guardian, though.

Why SHOULDN'T Wigan provide several players to Rugby Union? Wigan is BY FAR the most prolific producer of rugby talent in the country, and the only reason there aren't more Wiganers playing union for the national side, is probably snobbery.
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Re: Andy Farrell Article : Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:58 pm  
I see an earlier entry stating that Mr McLeod wasn’t popular and that he shouldn’t be accredited for the success of rugby league at John Fisher....It would appear this post is the anomaly in the thread. Mr McLeod was known and respected by colleagues and all good committed school boy sportsmen and his dedication to the game and coaching of the students was absolutely exceptional.
I guess in life people will always see the negative side if that’s the vibe that envelopes them.
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