Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing first : Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:06 pm  

Personally im happy with our starting 17 when all fit and ready, but a knock to either half or nine early in the season and i think were gonna struggle for top 4. There are a few people on here knocking Mcollrum and to be honest i cant see the way he plays offering much in attack, so putting Tommy at 9 will see us putting Lockers at half with the cover in the back of the pack. Wayne seems to have gone with size this season with the likes of Hock and Mossop putting weight on. Is this the right way. The way i see it you don't need big forwards now with the amount of tacklers in the ruck. Im not convinced this season even if its just after one game.

There's no easy games in this league this year and complacency like Friday night could cost us a few results.

Regards

Connor.

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:12 pm  

Connor The Warrior wrote:

Personally im happy with our starting 17 when all fit and ready, but a knock to either half or nine early in the season and i think were gonna struggle for top 4. There are a few people on here knocking Mcollrum and to be honest i cant see the way he plays offering much in attack, so putting Tommy at 9 will see us putting Lockers at half with the cover in the back of the pack. Wayne seems to have gone with size this season with the likes of Hock and Mossop putting weight on. Is this the right way. The way i see it you don't need big forwards now with the amount of tacklers in the ruck. Im not convinced this season even if its just after one game.

There's no easy games in this league this year and complacency like Friday night could cost us a few results.

Regards

Connor.

Wigan did not turn up at all.

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:16 pm  

Cripesginger wrote:

Wigan did not turn up at all.

Huddersfield should have been beaten by a few points Friday night. We can o into games like that thinking were gonna rack up a lot of points.

Also after 15 mins we looked out on our feet.

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:31 pm  

Connor The Warrior wrote:

Huddersfield should have been beaten by a few points Friday night. We can o into games like that thinking were gonna rack up a lot of points.

Also after 15 mins we looked out on our feet.

We played you on Sunday afternoon...if your guys had been running around since Friday night they would be knackered.

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:51 pm  

Weve got to start tommy at 9. If I was wane I would give powell/mellor their chance in the halves, we are going to need to play them sooner rather than later because with tommy going at the end of the year if they have not had their chance they will be incredibly raw in their first season. I also feel that Farrell has to be starting second row, he looked alot better than hock who I thought was shocking in the second row yesterday he still has he brainfarts offloads saying that he was better when he came on at prop.

Did anyone else not think Richards looked a bit dodgy on the wing yesterday? He didnt seem to be on the smae wavelength as Carmont all day.
Looking at the team at the minute I would like to see something like this for next week.

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Darrell Goudling
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Brett Finch
7. Sam Powell
8. Lee Mossop
9. Tommy Leuluai
10. Jeff Lima
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Liam Farrell
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Eric Lauaki
15. Gareth Hock
16. Mike McIllorum
17. Chris Tuson

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:06 pm  

Cripesginger wrote:

We played you on Sunday afternoon...if your guys had been running around since Friday night they would be knackered.

Oh yea. Too much beer since then lol

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:45 pm  

I think our kicking game needs to be worked on. Not one of them could get a kick right. Finch & tommy isn't the right partnership. Bring in Sam Powell

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:06 pm  

We got to have a game plan with a plan B without this we will look as clueless as we did Sunday and in many games which we go behind early or are at half time.

Wane as I thought originally would be and thats tatically lacking.

He has talked a lot since getting the job saying new fast and skill style. None of which was present on sunday to me it looked the same way as under Madge but the with the squad not having the pre-season which madge would give them.

Fitness was a massive concern for me on Sunday and also control of the ruck was none existant seems Wane as got rid of the third man in the tackle too which has caused us to lose control. Think selection is going to be Wane downfall this season, I think he has a few players who are like his untouchables and will be ever present this year. Tuson, Flower, Eric and Mcllorum.

My 17 would be

Tomkins
Josh
Gelling
George
Pat
Finch
Tommy
Mossop
Mcllorum
Prescott
Hock
Hansen
Lockers

Subs
Mellor
Lima
Fielden
Farrell/Eric

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:28 pm  

Early doors it all looks a bit Brian Noble but it is just that, early doors.

Never convinced by the Wane appointment to be honest but I hope I am proven wrong.

Recruitment not great short term, we still need a hooker and a half badly next year, not bringing one in this year I feel will put significant pressure on Wane.

Re: Peoples thoughts about the squad after a disappointing f : Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:44 pm  

jonh wrote:

Never convinced by the Wane appointment to be honest but I hope I am proven wrong.

To be fair I don't think there are many in RL circles who were/are convinced. Watching and listening to him he doesn't come across well at all and I wonder how effective he is at managing the players with such a poor communication style. It's early days though so wait and see - every year since I can remember there's a massive over reaction to a first round defeat from supporters of every club. it may take some time for him to make his mark with the players and no matter what he says he will find the transition tough.

Only my personal view but I never felt he was a good appointment and I certainly don't think he's a long term option for Wigan.

If you are playing as poorly 5 games in that's when you need to get a bit twitchy, not now.