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Re: King : Thu May 11, 2023 4:41 pm  
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King and Cooper both tested the limits of what they could get away with whilst at Warrington - due to a culture Powell inherited.

King and Cooper are intelligent enough (well Cooper is, King couldn't follow the plot of Peppa Pig) to realise this wouldn't fly at Wigan and rightly so - new workplace, new set of rules.

Powell, whatever his faults, is trying to instil that kind of culture at Warrington where people can't consistently leave training early, can't forget passports, can't make their own way home, can't shoulder barge the coach etc etc.

Currently working out well for all parties.

I agree with your last statement.

For debate's sake though I'll still take issue with the rest. If Cooper is intelligent enough to know it won't fly at Wigan then he's presumably intelligent enough to realise it won't fly at Warrington under a new coach who's trying to instill a particular culture. Surely then, if he couldn't be brought on board, that's down to how the coach handled it rather than the player having some sort of "ego" problem. If that was genuinely the case then presumably he'd still have the same ego which would prevent him from buying into it here. That's not been the case. In fact he's regarded as a leader already at Wigan.

Same for King. If he's genuinely too stupid to realise what was required at Warrington then I simply have to say the Wigan education system must indeed be something special! If we discount that being the case, then the same applies as to Cooper.

Sorry, but it still doesn't wash for me. At best I'll accept that Powell wasn't able to communicate, persuade or convince well enough to get them on board. Which leaves me asking the same question; Powell or players?

We're getting a little sidetracked here anyway. I was merely pointing out (as I've said a few times now) that the "egos" narrative was clearly one that fits a certain viewpoint but, in reality, had little basis in objective truth. It was being questioned by your own fans last year too but it's surprising what a few wins under the belt can do ;)
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Re: King : Sun May 14, 2023 8:28 am  
I think a new employee would be more inclined to accept the routine at his new place of work, whether it be sport club or factory, than a culture change by new management somewhere where he has been one of the top dogs for years.
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